NSFCD Pokedex - Starter/Legendary Discussion

[Kayo]

Ok, since no one can come up with agreeable water/fire/grass starters, perhaps we should go with Psychic, Dark, and Fighting starters?

I still think my idea makes the most sense:
Fire/Psychic
Grass/Fighting
Water/Dark

The cycle works normally so each starter beats the type it's supposed to with both its primary and secondary type.

[Nayrman]

Hm. Ok. I'll try to come up with something like that in mind I guess.

[FruitFlow]

They're starters, we don't need to be ultra unique and awesome. They CAN be, but we shouldn't be trying to make them the most epic, most resistant, most equal Pokémon of all time.
If they have x4 weakness to 5 things while another only has x2 weakness to 1 thing, Who cares?

Well, if you say so.
I just wanted as creative as possible.

I have no idea what you're trying to say Jr but Ice is only resistant to itself. Ice takes neutral damage from Water.

Also, no Ghost type starters please. You'd automatically win every battle for a while because EVERYTHING has only Normal-type moves. If it only becomes Ghost in the final stage MAYBE, but not in the first or second.

Of course.
No starter should ever have dual at they're first stage.
Second stage sounds okay, since a lot of things learn Dark moves at an early rate. (Bite, Pursuit, etc.)

[Kayo]

Well, if you say so.
I just wanted as creative as possible.
Of course.
No starter should ever have dual at they're first stage.
Second stage sounds okay, since a lot of things learn Dark moves at an early rate. (Bite, Pursuit, etc.)

Yeah but a lot of things don't.

No starter has ever had an immunity until the third stage. As a refresher, these are Swampert and Torterra being immune to Electric, and Empoleon being immune to Poison. It's just too unbalanced, I think.

[FruitFlow]

Yeah but a lot of things don't.

No starter has ever had an immunity until the third stage. As a refresher, these are Swampert and Torterra being immune to Electric, and Empoleon being immune to Poison. It's just too unbalanced, I think.

Actually, Mudkip gains Ground in it's second stage as a Marshstomp.

How about we make the Grass a late evolver like Totodile and Turtwig?
Or just make all the starters dual at their final stage.

[Kayo]

Actually, Mudkip gains Ground in it's second stage as a Marshstomp.

How about we make the Grass a late evolver like Totodile and Turtwig?
Or just make all the starters dual at their final stage.

Okay yeah it does, but Grotle and Prinplup are single typed. Forgot about that (I usually don't care about middle stages)

Either way, that was ONE immunity, to a pretty rare type anyway. You don't find Electric types until around the third gym in the game Marshtomp appears in, and even then it's only Electrike and Plusle/Minun. And by then you already will have found Geodude. So the second type doesn't entirely impact the game too much.

TWO immunities on the other hand, to more common types, are different. The earliest you could ever catch a Ghost was Lavender Town in RBYFRLG. And then, that was ONE ghost, which is what made it a useful asset (being the only one available)

...I'm just saying, it just seems to stand out more than the other two starters. A Ghost is something that should be available to everybody, instead of only to whoever picks a certain starter.

[JrDude]

Don't worry creative people, these are just the starters, there's 142 more Pokémon to create (if we go for 151, otherwise even more/less), we don't have to put ALL the creativity into the starters.

[FruitFlow]

Well, for the time being I want to stick with my Grass/Ghost idea.
If everyone ends up disliking it though I'll just go ahead and try to think up something new.
But I really like this typing.

[The Riddler]

Fire/Psychic
Grass/Fighting
Water/Dark

I'm a fan of this, as much as I love the Platypus idea.

Now for the creatures to go along with them.
I still think we need a frilled lizard in there somewhere, and for some reason the Grass/Fighting type sounds like it'd match. It keeps the reptile/amphibian thing going as well.

[FruitFlow]

Oh, I just wanted to point out that another reason I chose Grass/Ghost is because as reptiles shed their skin it becomes very pale colored. Giving off sort of a ghostly/zombie appearance.
Like this:

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Very huge pic:
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[Kayo]

Fruity, we can still make a Grass/Ghost, just perhaps not as a starter. Really.

And for the lizard thing, perhaps start as a basic quadrupedal frilled lizard for the base form, gradually becoming more menacing and aggressive through evolution until it ultimately reaches an epic beast of a frilled lizard that has developed vicious combative fighting skills.

And Intimidate would be a very fitting ability if we didn't want to stick to Overgrow. But if we do go separate abilities, save Intimidate until at least the second form so it's not too powerful (Intimidate is a great ability), and have the first form have a weak filler ability or whatever.

Or stick with Overgrow, it's no big deal. It might be easier if we stay traditional on the abilities.

This is all a spew of random ideas of mine.

[The Riddler]

Let's move along in the discussion while we think about the starters.

How about "The New Pikachu"? Who should our new Electric Rodent be?
We had Pikachu, Pichu, Plusle/Minun, Pachirisu, and Emolga.

Next?

[FruitFlow]

Let's see. We've had mice and squirrels.
How about a gerbil or hamster?
Electric gerbil.

[The Riddler]

Bahahahaha I can picture its fur puffing out from static.

[FruitFlow]

I can imagine that right now.