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Title: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 03, 2013, 11:34:12 AM
it's unconfirmed as of now but serebii chose to report it anyway

it's a new forme (maybe third mew entirely)

(http://pokebeach.com/news/0413/potential-mewtwo-forme-1.jpg)


NINTENDO, YOU LEAVE MEWTWO ALONE
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: JrDude on April 03, 2013, 12:07:16 PM
Mewthree?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 03, 2013, 12:11:26 PM
well its been speculated that there would be a new mew since the beginning of Pokemon.

if it happens, whatever. I like that new Mewthree better than any fanart I've seen.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 03, 2013, 12:37:59 PM
reminds me of dbz
i like it
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Mona on April 03, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Final Form Mew
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Flying Chickens on April 03, 2013, 07:26:53 PM
Looks a bit silly.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 04, 2013, 06:00:06 AM
Majin Mew
Evil Mew
Super Mew
Kid Mew
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Mona on April 04, 2013, 04:52:13 PM
Ultimate Mew
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Britz on April 04, 2013, 06:42:59 PM
Mega Mew
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: JrDude on April 06, 2013, 04:12:27 PM
New form confirmed. It is a new form of Mewtwo.
(http://www.serebii.net/smash4131.jpg)

Thinking about it, Mew being the ancestor of all Pokémon, and Mewtwo being it's "clone," I won't be surprised if X & Y has something to do with the 2 of them. Seeing as all the DNA originated from that.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 06, 2013, 04:31:25 PM
it's confirmed
although who the intercourse  had any doubt in the first place

STILL LIKE IT
STILL RAD
STILL DBZ
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 06, 2013, 07:15:42 PM
i wanna see its stats dangit
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 06, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
Official site (pokemon.com) says this:

QuoteThe mysteries of Pokémon X and Pokémon Y continue to grow with the unveiling of a Pokémon that is strangely familiar! It looks a lot like the powerful Legendary Pokémon Mewtwo, but not quite the same...

This new Pokémon shares many traits with Mewtwo, including a light-purple body and piercing, powerful eyes.

Okay, so I can breathe a sigh of relief; looks like this might not be an alternate Forme for Mewtwo.

Serebii really makes it seem like it is... and if it turns out to be a Mewtwo forme I'll be beyond mad. They absolutely cannot mess with Mewtwo. Since the official site separates it from Mewtwo linguistically, I'm going to just assume it's a new Pokemon, possibly a "Mewthree."

Quote from: Z on April 06, 2013, 07:15:42 PM
i wanna see its stats dangit
They'll be ridiculous and this Pokemon will be completely overused. I'm calling Deoxys-esque (Normal and Attack formes), though maybe not as extreme.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Sirwaddy on April 06, 2013, 09:24:29 PM
Whether it's a new form or not I've really liked it since it first leaked. But Kayo's right, regardless what the fansites say, the official sites bring it's relation to Mew and Mewtwo into question and introduce it as a new Pokemon.

Either way, I was just thrilled to see more gameplay. The battles look look really good, I just hope there's a way to change the battle speed (like in Etrian Odyssey IV).

But are we getting any NEW news in CoroCoro this month or what
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 06, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
Although, I heard last week that they were releasing a "new Pokemon," and I was excited to have one more after the six we've been seeing for a while now. And whether it's an alternate forme (highly doubt considering the "new Pokemon" hype) or just another Mew I'm a bit underwhelmed.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 06, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
Quote from: Kayo on April 06, 2013, 10:19:48 PM
I'm a bit underwhelmed.

You set your expectations too high m8
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Sirwaddy on April 06, 2013, 10:54:23 PM
Yeah after that leak I was expecting exactly this for Smash and was pleasantly surprised with the gameplay so this was good for me lol

Although it's worth mentioning that before Kyurem's white and black formes were completely revealed, they were introduced as "new pokemon" as well.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 06, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
Quote from: Sirwaddy on April 06, 2013, 10:54:23 PM
Although it's worth mentioning that before Kyurem's white and black formes were completely revealed, they were introduced as "new pokemon" as well.

Yep. I remember that.

Gamefreak considers new "formes" as completely new pokemon
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Sirwaddy on April 06, 2013, 11:04:30 PM
Quote from: Z on April 06, 2013, 10:58:07 PM
Yep. I remember that.

Gamefreak considers new "formes" as completely new pokemon

Extremely misleading, so this Mewthing could go either way. But it does seem like they talk about it's relation to Mew and Mewtwo quite a lot. Maybe it like evolves from one or something. I mean... breeding Manaphy was a thing so why not
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 07, 2013, 01:59:58 AM
Quote from: Sirwaddy on April 06, 2013, 10:54:23 PM
Yeah after that leak I was expecting exactly this for Smash and was pleasantly surprised with the gameplay so this was good for me lol

Although it's worth mentioning that before Kyurem's white and black formes were completely revealed, they were introduced as "new pokemon" as well.

what are you seeing in the gameplay?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 07, 2013, 08:09:55 AM
Gosh dang it, it's like you guys never played a game before Ruby/Sapphire. It's freaking MEWTHREE. This "alt-form" stuff is a bunch of nonsense. We've been waiting for Mewthree since literally the beginning of Pokemon, and all your first guess when you see this is "Guess they're making another form-changing legendary." Come on, guys!

MEWTHREE FOR SSB4!
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Tupin on April 07, 2013, 11:23:01 AM
(http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1365357424521.png)

i've seen poop like this happen before with other things

it never turns out as bad as people think it will
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 07, 2013, 11:39:37 AM
Quote from: Neerb on April 07, 2013, 08:09:55 AM
Gosh dang it, it's like you guys never played a game before Ruby/Sapphire. It's freaking MEWTHREE. This "alt-form" stuff is a bunch of nonsense. We've been waiting for Mewthree since literally the beginning of Pokemon, and all your first guess when you see this is "Guess they're making another form-changing legendary." Come on, guys!

MEWTHREE FOR SSB4!

yes
lucario is the pooptiest pokemon if you like him feel bad about yoru taste
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 07, 2013, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 07, 2013, 11:39:37 AM
yes
lucario is the pooptiest pokemon if you like him feel bad about yoru taste

Oh come on Custom. If it wasn't for how gay the Lucario fanbase was you wouldn't be saying that. If you look at his design it looks like he'd fit in perfectly in Generation II with Pokemon like Xatu and Tyranitar.

I don't really mind the Pokemon, its actually really good when used competitively and in-game. Its design isn't bad either. Its just that he tends to attract furfags and complete autistic morons, but Pokemon IN GENERAL attracts those people, so its kind of hard to judge people hard for liking Lucario, especially when some of the same people are just as idiotic with Pokemon like Pikachu, Raichu, and yes, even Mewtwo.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 07, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
Quote from: Z on April 07, 2013, 02:20:06 PM
Oh come on Custom. If it wasn't for how gay the Lucario fanbase was you wouldn't be saying that. If you look at his design it looks like he'd fit in perfectly in Generation II with Pokemon like Xatu and Tyranitar.

I don't really mind the Pokemon, its actually really good when used competitively and in-game. Its design isn't bad either. Its just that he tends to attract furfags and complete autistic morons, but Pokemon IN GENERAL attracts those people, so its kind of hard to judge people hard for liking Lucario, especially when some of the same people are just as idiotic with Pokemon like Pikachu, Raichu, and yes, even Mewtwo.

i think i just hate him becuase they made him more than he was
they put him into movies and brawl
man why brawl
he did not deserve to be in brawl
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 07, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 07, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
i think i just hate him becuase they made him more than he was
they put him into movies and brawl
man why brawl
he did not deserve to be in brawl

Well, Jigglypuff has been in every game just because it was "popular" at one point. I get what you mean but the devs just wanted to help the Pokemon company market lucario i guess.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Sirwaddy on April 07, 2013, 04:31:27 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 07, 2013, 01:59:58 AM
what are you seeing in the gameplay?

I meant I was surprised they showed us some gameplay. The gameplay itself wasn't astounding but I really like it.

I stay away from Lucario because its fanbase is CRAZY but design-wise it isn't bad.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 07, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
i just hope we can turn that garbage off
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 07, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
Quote from: Z on April 07, 2013, 02:25:04 PM
Well, Jigglypuff has been in every game just because it was "popular" at one point. I get what you mean but the devs just wanted to help the Pokemon company market lucario i guess.
I still think we need to take her out of Smash. I don't care how long she's been there. She's done.

Quote from: Z on April 06, 2013, 10:42:44 PM
You set your expectations too high m8
it's either an alt forme or pretty much an edited carbon copy of an existing Pokemon. when they promised me a "new pokemon" I wanted a new pokemon.

Maybe even the other Eeveelution I'm still adamant about existing.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 07, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 07, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
i just hope we can turn that garbage off

Attack animations?

I don't know why you guys are worried. Its a feature that's been in the games since Gen I.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 07, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: Z on April 07, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
Attack animations?

I don't know why you guys are worried. Its a feature that's been in the games since Gen I.
are you talking about the stuff you've pretty much always been able to turn off in the settings? Under "Battle Scene" I think
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 07, 2013, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: Kayo on April 07, 2013, 07:12:06 PM
are you talking about the stuff you've pretty much always been able to turn off in the settings? Under "Battle Scene" I think

Yeah.

[spoiler]I only turn them off when leveling a Pokemon to 100[/spoiler]
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 12, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
QuoteThough it doesn't reveal anything new, CoroCoro also reveals the pieces about the new Pokémon revealed last week. In doing so, it confirms that it replaces Mewtwo on the movie poster and confirms that it is in fact a new form of Mewtwo, with the poster explanation stating that Mewtwo has awakened and become its new shape. Thanks to gin for translations. We'll provide more on this as and when it comes

I've never been more mad at GameFreak in my life.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 13, 2013, 06:59:11 AM
Quote from: Kayo on April 12, 2013, 10:38:32 PM
I've never been more mad at GameFreak in my life.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: zephilicious on April 13, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
this is better than more new legendaries
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 13, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: zephilicious on April 13, 2013, 10:15:40 AM
this is better than more new legendaries
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 13, 2013, 05:30:59 PM
Someone already made a 3D model of it to hack into Brawl.
(http://i.imgur.com/DujBhJI.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/oCqflVt.png)
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 13, 2013, 05:34:32 PM
does anyone else feel like the gameplay for this looks like poop in the new style?
compared to most other rpgs on the market i feel like the gameplay for x and y just isn't holding up for me
it had a charm to it with the sprite art and whatever
but i feel battles look extremely bland now
they look like a poor/low-tier rpg
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 13, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
"looks like a low-tier rpg"

Such as what? What low-tier rpg are you comparing it to?

And Pokemon battles have never "looked" good.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 13, 2013, 06:44:57 PM
Quote from: Z on April 13, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
"looks like a low-tier rpg"

Such as what? What low-tier rpg are you comparing it to?

And Pokemon battles have never "looked" good.

not really anything in general. i'm just saying it looks like complete poop for the huge game that pokemon is. it shouldn't look like "i'm an 18 year old indie dev making my first 3d rpg come check it out"
which i think it does
especially because the gameplay is absolutely so minimal and still turn based
they could do so much with the way it looked.
this just looks like a low budget jmmo or something but even less impressive because of how still it looks

if i had to compare it to something maybe the old ff remakes on the DS? Or like a low budget jmmo like cosmic break (but 10000x less impressive because they're still using turn based battles)

the overworld still has a charm to it i think

the artwork before at least was like "hey yeah, cool sprite art this is like what i played as a kid. this is what pokemon is and always will be"
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 13, 2013, 06:47:28 PM
tldr THAT SHIT SHOULD LOOK LIKE MONSTER HUNTER WITH THE AMOUNT OF HUGE $$$ IT"S BRINGING IN THIS IS INCREDIBLY UNDERWHELMING TO LOOK AT
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 13, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Would you have rather Game Freak take more inspiration from Colosseum/Gale of Darkness?

Part of Pokemon's charm is that it is simple.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 13, 2013, 08:30:20 PM
As much as I hate the overload of new Legendaries, I'd honestly much rather this be one than a secondary forme of the first "major" legendary of the franchise. I can't believe their idea well is so dry that they have to go back and dick around with 17-year-old Pokemon. Not even like making a new evolved form of an old monster, since that leaves the original completely intact (i.e. Electabuzz is still Electabuzz even though it can now evolve) The character I knew as Mewtwo and grew up with as Mewtwo will forever be referred to by competitive players as "Mewtwo-A" or some poop like that.

I'm a lot more mad about this than I probably should be, but I'm just a huge fan of Mewtwo. The purple-eyed one, that is. Fuck how I have to elaborate on that to differentiate.

You know what? Fuck this. The new forme will forever be referred to by me as Newtwo. For intercourse 's sake.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 13, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Kayo, its not that bad. C'mon.

Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 13, 2013, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: Z on April 13, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Kayo, its not that bad. C'mon.


You don't understand. Me and Mewtwo share a special connection D: and a birthday!
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: JrDude on April 13, 2013, 09:12:56 PM
Mewtwo has a connection with you. You changed and look different. So he did the same because he wants to be like you.
Don't hate your birthday buddy's puberty just because he looks different. He's still Mewtwo, on the inside.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 13, 2013, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: Z on April 13, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Would you have rather Game Freak take more inspiration from Colosseum/Gale of Darkness?

Part of Pokemon's charm is that it is simple.

i want it to look better than that
it can still be simple and look good
this looks like a low tier rpg
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 13, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
This looks like Pokemon Stadium.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 13, 2013, 10:45:56 PM
Quote from: Z on April 13, 2013, 08:40:50 PM
Kayo, its that bad. C'mon.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 14, 2013, 12:17:16 AM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 13, 2013, 09:12:56 PM
Mewtwo has a connection with you. You changed and look different. So he did the same because he wants to be like you.
Don't hate your birthday buddy's puberty just because he looks different. He's still Mewtwo, on the inside.
I'd like to think I look better now than I did 17 years ago. I can't say the same for Mewtwo.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Mona on April 14, 2013, 06:27:50 AM
-Yells from a distance-
I actually like the new form!
-Runs away-
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 14, 2013, 09:19:14 AM
I like it, just not as a Mewtwo form. Like, I love Fennekin's design, but if it ended up being a Vulpix alt-forme I'd be beyond mad. That's pretty much my attitude about this.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 14, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
I'm just mad because it's not Mewthree.

Total tease.

"Hey look, it's a 3rd Mew, like we've been expecting/waiting for/joking about since LITERALLY THE FIRST GAME!"
"lolnope, Mewtwo alt-form, have fun tourney-fagging. Now to work on that Suiccune-Celebi fusion Pokemon that no one asked for."
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 14, 2013, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: Neerb on April 14, 2013, 09:49:31 AM
I'm just mad because it's not Mewthree.

Total tease.

"Hey look, it's a 3rd Mew, like we've been expecting/waiting for/joking about since LITERALLY THE FIRST GAME!"
"lolnope, Mewtwo alt-form, have fun tourney-fagging. Now to work on that Suiccune-Celebi fusion Pokemon that no one asked for."
Yeah, maybe a little of this. Nintendo made it seem like it was a new Pokemon, and "Mewthree" is honestly something I would have been okay with.

Perhaps if they came right out and said it was going to be an alt-forme, I wouldn't have been quite as upset. But they said stuff like "This new Pokemon shares similarities with Mewtwo..." and then went on to basically say "Just kidding, it IS Mewtwo!"

I feel duped.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 14, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 13, 2013, 10:03:25 PM
i want it to look better than that
it can still be simple and look good
this looks like a low tier rpg

Yeah, to be honest, I don't like the cel-shaded look. I was hoping it'd grow on me and it may still do so, but as of right now it hasn't.

I'd have prefer'd it if they just used the models from the Pokedex 3D application.

There is one more thing you should consider though. We haven't seen "actual" gameplay. We haven't seen running around, getting into a battle, with all the trimmings like tunes. Maybe that's one of the reasons it looks so "low-tier". Maybe its just because of the bare bones way they're presenting battles.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 14, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
Quote from: Z on April 14, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
Yeah, to be honest, I don't like the cel-shaded look. I was hoping it'd grow on me and it may still do so, but as of right now it hasn't.

I'd have prefer'd it if they just used the models from the Pokedex 3D application.

There is one more thing you should consider though. We haven't seen "actual" gameplay. We haven't seen running around, getting into a battle, with all the trimmings like tunes. Maybe that's one of the reasons it looks so "low-tier". Maybe its just because of the bare bones way they're presenting battles.
I was honestly expecting Pokedex 3D models.

I'm putting a lot of faith in the little message that appears on screen in all the trailers that says "Gameplay footage not final". Doesn't mean anything will look completely different, but it should mean that they'll be cleaning it up a bit.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 16, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: Kayo on April 14, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
I was honestly expecting Pokedex 3D models.

I'm putting a lot of faith in the little message that appears on screen in all the trailers that says "Gameplay footage not final". Doesn't mean anything will look completely different, but it should mean that they'll be cleaning it up a bit.

i always have my hopes ride on those messages too
but they never change :(
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 16, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: Custom on April 16, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
i always have my hopes ride on those messages too
but they never change :(

Colonial Marines did.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 16, 2013, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: Neerb on April 16, 2013, 12:11:23 PM
Colonial Marines did.

uhhh
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 17, 2013, 09:18:07 PM

AWAKENED FORM IN ACTION



so yeah its confirmed that its a mewtwo form and not a "new" pokemon.

Don't shed tears Kayo, just think about how awesome Mewtwo+Awakened forme mewtwo would be in Doubles(lets hope it gets its own number so you can do that)
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Mona on April 18, 2013, 07:38:30 AM
So, it's been revealed (sorta) that the Mewtwo in the new movie is not the same Mewtwo from the first movie. The new Mewtwo is female.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: JrDude on April 18, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
... Mewtwo has no gender.
Also was created in a lab once.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 18, 2013, 12:08:13 PM
Quote from: Mona on April 18, 2013, 07:38:30 AM
So, it's been revealed (sorta) that the Mewtwo in the new movie is not the same Mewtwo from the first movie. The new Mewtwo is female.

if true, now i'm mad off

Kayo lets be mad together this poop is DUMB
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 18, 2013, 12:13:39 PM
furries wanna intercourse  mewtwo now
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Mona on April 18, 2013, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: JrDude 益 on April 18, 2013, 11:35:43 AM
... Mewtwo has no gender.
Also was created in a lab once.

Apparently there's a new one and it has a female voice. Still not 100% sure if this is true so take it with a grain of salt, I guess.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: JrDude on April 18, 2013, 12:26:45 PM
Maybe this is good news if it's true.
Mewtwo1 is genderless/male and stays that way forever.
Mewtwo2 is genderless/female and can change formes.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 18, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Apparently voice actors changing isn't a thing (wazzup almost every character in the series)

Apparently female voices on male characters also isn't a thing (wazzup most male pokemon)
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 18, 2013, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: The Riddler on April 18, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Apparently voice actors changing isn't a thing (wazzup almost every character in the series)

Apparently female voices on male characters also isn't a thing (wazzup most male pokemon)

qft I really hope this is how it is.

There should only be one mewtwo dangit
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 18, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
not that i give a intercourse  about the current anime, but analyze it. ash immediately recognizes mewtwo, who approaches ash directly about whatever is happening.

mewtwo knows ash. it's the same mewtwo.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 18, 2013, 01:19:57 PM
Quote from: The Riddler on April 18, 2013, 01:09:56 PM
not that i give a intercourse  about the current anime, but analyze it. ash immediately recognizes mewtwo, who approaches ash directly about whatever is happening.

mewtwo knows ash. it's the same mewtwo.

that's what i was saying when discussing this with mona

but even so I have a bad feeling about this
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: zephilicious on April 18, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
who the intercourse  cares who the voice actor or even who the mewtwo in the movie is, is anyone in this thread actually going to watch it?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 18, 2013, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: zephilicious on April 18, 2013, 01:22:33 PM
who the intercourse  cares who the voice actor or even who the mewtwo in the movie is, is anyone in this thread actually going to watch it?

[spoiler]You know the answer to that[/spoiler]
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 18, 2013, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: Zero on April 17, 2013, 09:18:07 PM

Don't shed tears Kayo, just think about how awesome Mewtwo+Awakened forme mewtwo would be in Doubles(lets hope it gets its own number so you can do that)
By definition, it won't. Otherwise it wouldn't be a forme.



Also, new Mewtwo being female? It better stay genderless in the ga-- Wait, how would that even work? Would the forms still be interchangeable in-game or what?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Sirwaddy on April 20, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
Formes are always interchangeable. Unless it's a Pokemon like Unown or Wormadam, or Shellos.... or Basculin
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 20, 2013, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: Sirwaddy on April 20, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
Formes are always interchangeable. Unless it's a Pokemon like Unown or Wormadam, or Shellos.... or Basculin
That's what I'm sayin'
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 20, 2013, 08:49:30 PM
This "second girl Mewtwo" is making me kinda hopeful.

That way, she's actually technically "Mewthree," and then she permanently changes form, and then in-game she's already like that when you find her and the dex is like "Mewthree used to look like Mewtwo."

Probably won't happen, though.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 20, 2013, 09:05:14 PM
She's still National Dex #150 which is not okay.

Honestly, with the whole gender change and the implied non-interchangeable forms, she really SHOULD be a separate dex number. I mean, the two Nidorans were separate.*

I would really have no objection to it being separate in the dex, even though it's really similar to an existing Pokemon. I would much, much rather that then going back and doubling up on #150, especially since Mewtwo♀ is basically a Gen VI Pokemon and is quite possibly important to the XY storyline in some way (or at least important to the Generation, given its debut appearance in a movie) so it would be kind of weird, in my opinion, to have it separated from the rest of its Gen VI friends by five whole generations.

*For the sake of arguments, let's ignore the fact that Nidoran would most likely have only a single dex number if it was released in Gen IV or later--the time when Pokemon first implemented both gender differences and gender-based branch evolutions. The reason for me bringing that up was that they were different numbers despite having the same name; there's no reason that the Mewtwos couldn't be separated for the same reason, considering they parallel the Nidorans pretty much exactly: Same name, different gender (theoretically), different stats.

Though if they did that, I don't know what Mewtwo♀ would be called.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 20, 2013, 10:08:21 PM
Mewtwo is genderless you intercourse s

The voice actor has no bearing on this poop. Stahp being weetoded
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 20, 2013, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: Zero on April 20, 2013, 10:08:21 PM
Mewtwo is genderless you intercourse s

The voice actor has no bearing on this poop. Stahp being weetoded
My theory on this is they originally just decided to make all Legendaries genderless, until Gen IV with Heatran (50/50 gender ratio) and Cresselia (always female).* And by the time that was incorporated, it wasn't really practical to go back and change gender ratios for existing Pokemon, plus it wasn't really a big deal since they can't breed anyway.

Now we're seeing more and more gendered legendaries, to the point where I personally feel that in a few gens the majority of new ones will have genders, mostly assigned ones...particularly the ones whose singularity is explicitly highlighted in a movie, like Celebi.



*Latios and Latias debuted one generation earlier, but they weren't too far from the point since they were the only two gendered legendaries at the time and they went together as a brother/sister thing. And the main reason there were two of them was to give Ruby and Sapphire two different roaming legendary Pokemon--hence why they're almost identical except for a switch in offensive and defensive stats.



P.S. If I want to use the different gender pronouns and symbols to differentiate between #150 Mewtwo and #150 Mewtwo, deal with it. You know which forme I'm referring to at all times when I do that anyway.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 20, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
holy poop WHOOO CARES
the new mewthing is cool it's like majin buu
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 20, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
doesn't matter mewtwo is genderless any way you look at it m8
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: The Riddler on April 21, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
Stop being intercourse ing stupid it's not a female and it's not a second Mewtwo it's just a different voice actor. The fact you're even trying to justify discussing it makes you intercourse ing retarded.

NOW, does anyone know Japanese and can confirm that the trailer actually says "Forme"? A friend of mine brought up an interesting point in that it might not confirm a new forme, but what we saw might have been Mewtwo evolving. I don't understand Japanese enough to make a comment on that.

If it is a forme, it's not permanent. Formes are never permanent.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 21, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
you guys are huge nerds
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 21, 2013, 01:04:50 AM
Quote from: Custom on April 21, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
I go to Comic-con.

[spoiler]I love it[/spoiler]

Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Tupin on April 21, 2013, 10:21:26 AM
wait so what is everyone freaking out about

i don't get it
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 21, 2013, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: Tupin on April 21, 2013, 10:21:26 AM
wait so what is everyone freaking out about

i don't get it

they're nerds idk
it's really stupid to freak out about anything here
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Tupin on April 21, 2013, 10:34:16 AM
like I never really got into pokemon ever

but I just see so much vitriol and "RUINED FOREVER" with this that it kind of reminds me that every single fanbase is exactly the same and reacts the same way to things like this
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 21, 2013, 01:46:38 PM
hey

[spoiler]i'm just being a dick and fanning the flames i dont give a poop as long as the form is overpowered and fun to use in Ubers[/spoiler]

uh i mean

Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Super on April 21, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
They should make a documentary on Pokemon entitled


Pokemon: What's the Big Deal?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 21, 2013, 07:36:15 PM
Quote from: The Riddler on April 21, 2013, 12:12:35 AM
Stop being intercourse ing stupid it's not a female and it's not a second Mewtwo it's just a different voice actor. The fact you're even trying to justify discussing it makes you intercourse ing retarded.
Gods, you're dense. We'll refer to #150 Mewtwo however we intercourse ing want until its official name is revealed, thanks. Stop getting so intercourse ing anal over someone using "she" instead of "it" because it's not a big deal.

QuoteNOW, does anyone know Japanese and can confirm that the trailer actually says "Forme"? A friend of mine brought up an interesting point in that it might not confirm a new forme, but what we saw might have been Mewtwo evolving. I don't understand Japanese enough to make a comment on that.
Honestly, how likely is it that it's an evolution of Mewtwo instead of an alternate forme? Just think about that for a little bit. What I do know for sure is there was a poster or something of-- wait, let's just look at it again.

[spoiler](http://www.serebii.net/corocoro4132.jpg)
And another.
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro4133.jpg)[/spoiler]Twice on the first image and at least three times on the second image is "Mewtwo" written in Japanese (ミュウツー). Look for it both vertically and horizontally. I can't read anything surrounding the name, but just take a look at the way the name appears; to me it's pretty conclusive that the name "Mewtwo" is referring to the Pokemon in the picture, but if anyone can read anything else on there it would help a lot.

Quote
If it is a forme, it's not permanent. Formes are never permanent.
"Depends on your definition of forme, which differs between sources." - Wormadam, Shellos, Gastrodon, and others.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Custom on April 21, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
this is the grossest thread i've ever posted in
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Neerb on April 22, 2013, 05:13:05 AM
Quote from: Custom on April 21, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
this is the grossest thread i've ever posted in

Um, Brawl Hype Threads? Heck, our one SSB4 Hype Thread?
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Tupin on April 22, 2013, 05:19:34 AM
at least in those threads it was blind speculation instead of whining
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 22, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
Quote from: Custom on April 21, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
this is the grossest thread i've ever posted in

sorry custom its my fault for getting riddler and kayo going

it amuses me
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
Quote from: Zero on April 22, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
sorry custom its my fault for getting riddler and kayo going

it amuses me
No one's "going," people are just getting all up in arms about how to refer to a Pokemon of which literally no information has been released yet.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 22, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
No one's "going," people are just getting all up in arms about how to refer to a Pokemon of which literally no information has been released yet.

Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
No one's "going," people are just getting all up in arms about how to refer to a Pokemon

Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
No one's "going," people are just getting all up in arms

Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
people are just getting all up in arms

Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 PM
up in arms

uh, that's what I said

what do you think "going" means bro
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
Quote from: Zero on April 22, 2013, 03:51:14 PM
uh, that's what I said

what do you think "going" means bro
But I mean I'd hardly call "this or that pronoun" a legitimate dispute.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: Zero on April 22, 2013, 03:57:12 PM
Quote from: Kayo on April 22, 2013, 03:52:54 PM
But I mean I'd hardly call "this or that pronoun" a legitimate dispute.

you both were clearly disputing

it was enough to disappoint custom

its time to move on man. Let's not beat this into the ground.
Title: Re: possibru new mewtwo
Post by: buttlord420 on August 08, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
riddler is dumb