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Quote from: serebii.net* This Pokémon is called Wooguru (ウォーグル ), possibly derived from War and Eagle. It is the Valor Pokémon, it is 1.5m tall, weighs 41kg and is a standard Normal/Flying-type Pokémon. It has two abilities, one of them Keen Eye and the other is Encourage, the ability Hihidaruma has which boosts the power of its moves but prevents the moves having a secondary effect. It also has a new attack called Free-Fall (フリーフォール). Free-Fall is a two turn attack that has the Pokemon grab the opponent and lift it into the air and then on the next turn falls to the ground
    * Munna's evolution Musharna (ムシャーナ ) has been revealed. It has a secret, said to do with Dream Smoke (ゆめのけむり) which itself involves a Game Sync, presumably uploading your save file, and then connection to the Pokémon Global Link website which we reported on last month
    * It also appears that Rankurusu (ランクルス), revealed in Oha Suta last week, is of the Psychic-type and has two abilities, one of them Magic Guard. However, we'll wait for a bigger image to totally confirm this. <- Misinterpretation, fixed in second quote below.
    * The scan also confirms Kibago (キバゴ) as the name for the tusked Pokémon
    * The scan also confirms that Koromori (コロモリ)is a Psychic/Flying type
    * Professor Araragi has a friend called Makomo whom plays a part within the game's story
    * The main character has two childhood friends, potential rivals. First is the blonde girl below Beru, second is the trainer Cheren whom we saw the trainer battle in the Oha Suta video last week
    * The version specific areas mentioned on Friday have also been confirmed; Black City (ブラックシティ) and White Forest (ホワイトフォレスト).
    * The character shown on Pokémon Sunday two weeks ago is known as N

Quote from: serebii.net* First is a DSi & 3DS exclusive feature; the Live Caster. This feature, after obtained in the game, will allow you to have video chats with your friends. This is limited to 4-player over local wireless and 2 player over Wi-Fi. Only the DSi can utilise this feature so if you don't have a DSi or a 3DS in the future, you cannot use this feature
    * In a manner similar to what was described as a 3DS feature, there is also a Pass By mode which, utilising the C Gear, has you connect with other players when you walk by them. This will aid them and you in various means, the extent of which is not yet known
    * It also confirms that the order in which your Pokémon are in during Triple Battles will help determine the damage calculations for attacks that hit multiple Pokémon
    * In the High Link feature, it appears to be a massive overworld hub in which you can go up to other players and offer assistance in the form of missions. The High Link is located within the middle of the Isshu region
    * In addition to that, we did accidentally get Rankurusu (ランクルス) & Gochiruzeru (ゴチルゼル) names mixed up. Rankurusu is the Green Pokémon and Gochiruzeru is Black humanshape Pokémon.
    * There is an attack known by Gochiruzeru called Magic Room (マジックルーム) which negates the effects of any Items on both you and the opponent.
    * Finally, we get our first look at the Isshu region on the in-game map
    * First is a DSi & 3DS exclusive feature; the Live Caster. This feature, after obtained in the game, will allow you to have video chats with your friends. This is limited to 4-player over local wireless and 2 player over Wi-Fi. Only the DSi can utilise this feature so if you don't have a DSi or a 3DS in the future, you cannot use this feature
    * In a manner similar to what was described as a 3DS feature, there is also a Pass By mode which, utilising the C Gear, has you connect with other players when you walk by them. This will aid them and you in various means, the extent of which is not yet known
    * It also confirms that the order in which your Pokémon are in during Triple Battles will help determine the damage calculations for attacks that hit multiple Pokémon
    * In the High Link feature, it appears to be a massive overworld hub in which you can go up to other players and offer assistance in the form of missions. The High Link is located within the middle of the Isshu region
    * In addition to that, we did accidentally get Rankurusu (ランクルス) & Gochiruzeru (ゴチルゼル) names mixed up. Rankurusu is the Green Pokémon and Gochiruzeru is Black humanshape Pokémon.
    * There is an attack known by Gochiruzeru called Magic Room (マジックルーム) which negates the effects of any Items on both you and the opponent.
    * Finally, we get our first look at the Isshu region on the in-game map

Quote from: serebii.netThe final details from CoroCoro have come out and have provided the details for all 7 Pokémon within the magazine. For other details, check the previous couple of updates. We'll update this as we do more translations. Please bear with us. Thanks to yaminokame for assistance on the translations.

    * Details for the Pokémon are out
          o First, we have Kibago (キバゴ), the Tusk Pokémon. It is 0.6m tall and weighs 18kg. It has the abilities of Rivalry & Mold Breaker and is a Dragon-type Pokémon. It also has a new attack called Double Chop (ダブルチョップ) which attacks twice
          o Next is Koromori (コロモリ). It is the Bat Pokémon. It is 0.4m tall and weighs 2.1kg. It has the abilities of Unaware & Klutz and is a Psychic/Flying-type Pokémon. It also has a new attack called Heart Stamp (ハートスタンプ) which makes the opponent Flinch.
          o Next is Minezumi (ミネズミ). It is the Lookout Pokémon. It is 0.5m tall and weighs 11.6kg. It has the abilities of Run Away & Keen Eye and is a Normal-type Pokémon. It also has a new attack called You First (おさきにどうぞ) which allows the opponent to move first
          o Next is Gochiruzeru (ゴチルゼル). It is the Celestial Body Pokémon. It is 1.5m tall and weighs 44kg. It has the ability of Frisk and is a Psychic-type Pokémon. It has the new attack Magic Room (マジックルーム) which negates the effects of any Items on both you and the opponent for 5 turns..
          o Next is Rankurusu (ランクルス). It is the Amplification Pokémon. It is 1.0m tall and weighs 20.1kg. It has the abilities of Dust-Proof (ぼうじん), which makes the Pokémon not take damage from weather effects & Magic Guard and is a Psychic-type Pokémon.
          o Next is Wooguru (ウォーグル ), possibly derived from War and Eagle. It is the Valor Pokémon, it is 1.5m tall, weighs 41kg and is a standard Normal/Flying-type Pokémon. It has two abilities, one of them Keen Eye and the other is Encourage, the ability Hihidaruma has which boosts the power of its moves but prevents the moves having a secondary effect. It also has a new attack called Free-Fall (フリーフォール). Free-Fall is a two turn attack that has the Pokémon grab the opponent and lift it into the air and then on the next turn falls to the ground
          o Next is Musharna (ムシャーナ ), the evolution of the Pokémon Munna. It is the Trance Pokémon. It is 1.1m tall and weighs 60.5kg. It has the abilities of Forewarn & Synchronize and is a Psychic-type Pokémon. Both Munna & Musharna give off the Dream Smoke. As explained on Sunday, the Dream Smoke is part of the Global Link connectivity.
    * Triple Battles First, we have details on the Triple battles, showing how you can target with the middle Pokémon being able to target all three Pokémon and the ones at the sides being able to target the opposite one and the middle one. You also have the ability to switch Pokémon positions in battle.
      If a Pokémon in the middle uses an attack that hits all Pokémon, then it will be very powerful
    * There is a new ability called Telepathy (テレパシー) which allows the Pokémon to avoid receiving damage from its team-mates.
    * There is also a new attack, name currently not given, which will cause all your team mates to avoid damage from attacks that would hurt all team members such as Earthquake.
    * Global Link The Global Link has two modes. One, where your Pokémon play in a dream and another is an online battling system. It appears that you have the ability to capture Pokémon not in the Isshu Dex within the Global Link and have them transferred back to your game. This can be done in the dream mode. As we said on Sunday, you access the Global Link when you have Musharna, the evolution of Munna.
          o The Game Sync is accessible through the C Gear. Here, you can send a single Pokémon to the computer and the "dream world".
          o In the world of dreams Pokémon have their own rooms that they can play in. They can play minigames with other Pokémon. Pokémon that your Pokémon becomes friends with in the dream world can be taken back to the real world
          o If you are registed to the PGL, then you can play "Rating Mode" of "Random Match" at to the global terminal inside of the Pokémon center. It will send your battle results to a server gather them so you can see who is really strong.
    * Version Changes Gochiruzeru and Rankurusu are Version exclusives and Black City & White forest are in the same part of Isshu.
    * There will also be other cities that vary in appearance based on your game
    * Features Using Infared, you have the ability of having speedy battles. This can be 2 or 4 Player. You can also trade this way on the spot from your box. You can automatically exchange friend codes over IR
    * You have the ability to draw on your friends faces over the Live Caster video chat. Characters in game will also call you on the Live Caster from time to time
    * There is also a gentleman in the game which will switch your game from the standard Hiragana/Katakana text to Kanji
    * There is a feature called Feeling Check that checks players compatibility. One of the things it shows is a game where two people have to keep the same rythmn
    * The High Link features mentioned yesterday have also been further confirmed and will involve meeting players over WiFi in the Isshu overworld and doing missions for them. This is as close to a MMORPG as we'll get
    * The C Gear as we knew has abilities in InfraRed, Wireless & WiFi
    * Characters Professor Araragi gives you the Pokémon and says for you to share with your friends, Cheren & Belle
    * It seems that you, Belle and Cheren all get the starters from Professor Araragi, leaving none left out as all of you are beginning your journey together.
    * Belle is a spontaneous person and is on her adventure against her father's wishes. She is rather unreliable.
    * Cheren is an intelligent guy and will give you helpful tips throughout your journey. He intends to be the champion in Isshu.
    * Indicating that Isshu is far away, the routes have once again reset and will begin with Route 1
    * N is one of the antagonists. N will keep coming to challenge you in order to confirm his ideas of justice. He calls Pokémon "Friends", but one of the screen shots shows him saying that he wants to split humans and Pokémon and divide them so it's black and white. He has the unique idea to set Pokémon free from people. He's looking for the power to bring his idea to fruition
    * Makomo will give you the C Gear after you assist her with a task

Quote from: serebii.netJapanese variety show Oha Suta has shown a new trailer for Pokémon Black & White which showed a video containing a lot of new Pokémon. We'll provide pictures shortly.
First we have Ononokusu (オノノクス), the mantis like Pokémon Second picture, the pokemon on the RIGHT, on the OPPONENT's side.
Next is Doryuuzu (ドリュウズ) a mole with a giant claw on its tail Second picture, OPPONENT's side, on the LEFT.
Next is Desukan (デスカーン), the sarcophagus-esque Pokémon with ghostly arms Second picture, LEFT of PLAYER's side
Then Denchura (デンチュラ )is shown, which appears to be a Tarantula Second picture, RIGHT of PLAYER's side
Finally is Moguryu (モグリュー), the baby mole Pokémon seen in the below screenshot. Don't look below. First picture, the one all the way on the right.
It appears that Doryuuzu may be Moguryu's evolution. It also revealed a Grass-type attack called Grass Mixer (グラスミキサー) and one called Drill Liner (ドリルライナー). We also know of a new are called White High-Link (ホワイトのハイリンク) which has your trainer transform into what may be a multiplayer avatar and the link up with the internet we mentioned earlier this month is called the Pokémon Global Link. Its functions are still unknown
It also confirms that there are now Three on Three battles. There is also a brand new option in the battle menu in what appeared to be a trainer battle. Along with Fight, Run & Pokémon and Shooter. It is unknown what Shooter is for or what use it has. These Pokémon have been added to the new Pokémon section with the little details we know.

Quote from: serebii.netThe latest issue of Nintendo Dream has provided new insights into the special Illusion  ability that Zoroark & Zorua both have. This ability, as we knew previously, allows for Zorua/Zoroark to be transformed into another Pokémon when sent into battle, as seen with the special event when you capture Zoroark. However, prior to now, the details of the ability were not known. We now know the details of this ability. The ability allows for Zorua & Zoroark to be in the form of the Pokémon in second place in your party at the time of it being sent out. This means that if you have say Jigglypuff in the front of your party, Zorua & Zoroark would appear in battle as a Jigglypuff. As we know from before, it keeps its Dark-type, but its appearance and name will match the Pokémon of which it has an Illusion.
In addition to those details, it provided a massive image of the Isshu region, showing more areas than the images so far. It doesn't provide new details but does show an airfield and speculates that there is an airport in the game and various places such as a theme park, windmills, ancient ruins and what they think is a blast furnace.

Quote from: serebii.netWith the new downloads of the beasts; Entei, Raikou & Suicune in Japan to tie in with the upcoming movie, further details have been revealed about the in-game Zoroark event. As we stated last month, when you bring the beasts to Black & White through the Transfer Machine, you will get access to Zoroark in an as-of-yet undisclosed location in Isshu. This battle with Zoroark has you first face against an Illusion of one of the beasts. Previously, we didn't know what causes Zoroark to change form, but a pamphlet with the download has since confirmed it.
If you send over Raikou, Zoroark will appear as Entei.
If you send over Entei, Zoroark will appear as Suicune.
If you send over Suicune, Zoroark will appear as Raikou.
It is still not currently known how Zoroark's Illusion ability will work outside of this special event. The pamphlet also further confirmed the fact that Zorua & Zoroark can only be obtained through these special events. We'll bring more as it comes.

Quote from: serebii.netHidden away within CoroCoro's page about Celebi & Zorua in Black & White, there is a screenshot that gives some minor details about the transfer method. In the games, there is a machine called the Pokémon Transfer Machine (転送マシンでポケモン). The screenshot simply states that Celebi is being transferred through the Pokémon Transfer Machine. This appears to be the method of transferring the Pokémon from your 4th Generation games to your 5th Generation ones. This is to be done over the standard local wireless and appears to be one at a time. It is necessary to send Celebi & the shiny beasts obtained from the 13th movie over to Black & White to obtain Zorua & Zoroark. It is currently unknown if there are any limits to the Pokémon Transfer Machine similar to the original Pal Park restrictions in Diamond & Pearl
The official site also elaborates into the C Gear. It also shows on the menu and in the C-Gear that there are three methods of communication; Wireless, WiFi and IR (InfaRed) and you can use the C Gear with all three. These options are shown in the battle menu so it'll be able to tell when you're battling in any of those. These options are running while you're in actual gameplay as opposed to in a Union Room. To what extent, is not yet known.

Quote from: serebii.netThe first bits of this month's issue of the Japanese publication CoroCoro have leaked on various Japanese forums. As usual, we're getting it gradually so please bare with us. There is lots of rumoured information but we need to wait and see. Keep checking back. As of now, the image we have is too blurry to tell what's said, or even if it's real so it may not be confirmed as real. We'll bring anymore as and when it comes

    * The Mouse Pokémon shown is said to be called Chiramii (チラーミィ)
    * The as of yet unknown Pokémon at the top is called Munna(ムンナ)

Quote from: serebii.netThe first bits of this month's issue of the Japanese publication CoroCoro have leaked on various Japanese forums. As usual, we're getting it gradually so please bare with us. There is lots of rumoured information but we need to wait and see. Keep checking back. As of now, the image we have is too blurry to tell what's said. We'll bring anymore as and when it comes with thanks to yaminokame for translations.

    * The Mouse Pokémon shown is said to be called Chiramii (チラーミィ). It is Normal-type, the Chinchilla Pokémon. It is 0.4m tall, 5.8kg. It's abilities are Cute Charm & Technician. It has a move called Sweep Slap (スイープビンタ) which attacks several times consecutively.
    * The pig like Pokémon is called Munna(ムンナ). It is the Dream Eater Pokémon and is Psychic-type. It is 0.6m tall and 23.3kg. It has the abilities Forewarn & Synchronise. It has an attack called Telekinesis (テレキネシス) which makes the opponent float in the air.
    * The strange dual cog Pokémon is called Gear (ギアル). It is the Gear Pokémon, is a pure Steel-type. It is 0.3m, 21.0kg and has the abilities Plus & Minus. It has a new attach called Gear Saucer (ギアソーサー) which attacks multiple times
    * The bird Pokémon called Mamepato (マメパト). It is the Baby Pigeon Pokémon. is Normal-Flying type. It is 0.3m and 2.1kg. It has the Super Luck ability or a new ability called Pigeon Heart (はとむね) which seems to prevent its Defense stat from lowering
    * The ape Pokémon called Hihidaruma (ヒヒダルマ). It is the Flaming Pokémon, is Fire-type. It is 1.3m and 92.9kg. It has a new ability called Encourage (ちからづく)
    * The zebra Pokémon called Shimama (シママ). It is the Charged Pokémon, is Electric-type. It is 0.8m and 29.8kg. Its abilities are LightningRod & Motor Drive. It has a new attack called Wild Bolt (ワイルドボルト) which hurts both Shimama and the Pokémon)
    * The crocodile Pokémon called Meguroko (メグロコ). It is the Desert Crocodile Pokémon, is Ground-type & Dark-type. It is 0.7m and 15.2kg. Its abilities are Intimidate & Earthquake Spiral (じしんかじょう) which raises its attack when the opponent is Knocked Out
    * The new Professor Dr. Araragi (アララギ博士 ) has a Chiramii
    * Reshiram & Zekrom's types and details were also revealed
          o Reshiram is a Fire & Dragon type. It is the White Yang Pokémon It is 3.2m and 330kg. It has the new TurboBlaze (ターボブレイズ) Ability
          o Zekrom is an Electric/Dragon as predicted.. It is the Black Ying Pokémon. It is 2.9m and 345kg. It has the Terra Voltage ability
          o To get Zorua, you will need to send over the Celebi from the upcoming movie to Black & White. It is obtained at Level 10
          o There is a new feature called the C Cog which allows you to play with various connection capabilites. To what end is not known, but there is a screenshot of the player in the Pokémon Centre with various connection stats at the bottom.
          o In this game Global Terminal inside of the Pokemon center and it is called "Random Match". It just says that you can play freely with people from all over the country in random match mode. Then says that in spring 2011 that foreign players will join. The Global Terminal is now also located in the Pokémon Centres

Quote from: serebii.netPokemon.com have just updated with the first news of the legends of Pokémon Black & Pokémon White. These Pokémon are to be called Reshiram and Zekrom. We do not have further details. Please bare with us.

QuoteThe host of Pokémon Sunday, Nakagawa Shoko, blogged today about the character she is voicing in the thirteenth movie. With this, she mentioned about her love for Electric types and stated that due to this, she wants to get Zekrom. This statement was quickly removed from her blog but people managed to catch it in time. If this holds true then it will mean that Zekrom is of a Dragon and Electric type, a new and unique type combination. Remember though, this is NOT confirmed, albeit coming from a very likely source plus she could have removed it due to her being mistaken about Zekrom's type. We'll bring more as and when it comes Click the picture to go to our New Pokémon Page

Quote from: serebii.net* The region appears to be called the Isshu Region (イッシュ)
    * CoroCoro states that the protagonists are older than they have been so far
    * Before the scans came out, some new information was posted on 2ch including the region name which turned out true, classifications matching the Pokémon's appearance and the aforementioned possible Pokémon names. This information detailled some attacks, classifications, Zoroark's ability and the special event from the beasts. I have decided to post it with thanks to yaminokame for translation. Remember though that the following information is NOT confirmed yet.
          o The Grass Starter, Tsutaja (ツタージャ) is the Grass Snake Pokémon
          o The Fire Starter, Pokabu (ポカブ)is the Fire Pig Pokémon
          o The Water Starter, Mijumaru (ミジュマル) is the Sea Otter Pokémon
          o Zoroark has an ability called Illusion (イリュージョン) which will allow it to transform into various Pokémon. How it differs from the move Transform remains to be seen.
          o Two new attacks have been announced;
                + A move called Trickery (イカサマ) seems to allow the attack to be calculated using the opponent's stats
                + Another move called Claw Sharpen (つめとぎ) raises the user's Attack and Accuracy stats
          o The special event activated by the special Raikou, Entei & Suicune given with the upcoming movie; Phantom Champion Zoroark has been detailled. In this event, when you bring the beasts (it is unclear if it's all three or just one)to the game, a special battle will occur. This battle is against a Level 25 Zoroark which will transform into the various Pokémon. At many points, it will break its transformation to allow you to capture it.
      Remember, this information is NOT Confirmed as of yet and so it's quite possible that this information is indeed inaccurate. However, as the region name was accurate, it's also quite possibly real. We'll get confirmation as to whether it's real or fake when the rest of the scans come out.

Quote from: Zero on May 13, 2010, 06:52:02 PM
You're asking if we need Claw Sharpen when we have moves like Tail Whip and Stealth Rock? Really? I lol'd.

I'm actually pretty excited for the moves, though I'm not getting my hopes up. I'm praying something is made to destroy the force that is Stealth Rock in the current metagame.

Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 13, 2010, 06:44:38 PM
They call it an "ability," so it probably happens on it's own instead of being manually activated. Also, according to new Serebii info, Zoroark is ALWAYS Dark type, even if he is currently in the form of a different pokemon.

Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 14, 2010, 01:40:12 PM
Serebii now know what Illusion is: IT'S JUST AN ILLUSION!

Here's how it works: Let's say you are playing against an opponent, and you throw out Zoroark (or Zorua, but I'm just saying Zoroark for now). When Zoroark appears, it appears as a different random pokemon, lets say, Entei. Now, YOU, the savvy Zoroark trainer, know that you have a Zoroark with Zoroark stats, Zoroark moves, and Zoroark type (dark). HOWEVER, what actually appears on screen is an Entei named "Entei." So, now you, the Zoroark trainer, are at an advantage because your opponent is trying to fight a Zoroark as if it was an Entei! Hence, "Illusion." Furthermore, Zoroark's illusion will break down when it takes too much damage, so you'll have to use any trickery as quick as you can, and when you're fighting a wild Zoroark, you'll have to beat it back to Zoroark form in order to catch it.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 14, 2010, 02:08:25 PM
I also wonder what Pokémon it will transform into, will it always be one of the legendary dogs? or can you change what it will disguise itself as?

Quote from: Zorua on May 14, 2010, 03:23:12 PM
Makes sense. Sounds stupid to use yourself though unless you're playing competitively, but I can see where they're going with it.
That would screw up the metagame a bit though, if:
...you can change what you disguise it as. I doubt it, but still, what would it possibly be, any pokemon? Here are some flaws:

You are playing competitively or, say, in a high level of the Battle Tower. You see a Kakuna. Now you know that's not a Kakuna.
Moves. "The foe's Magnezone Used Night Slash!" ".. wait what" another dead giveaway.

Or if it has to be Entei, Raikou or Suicune:

*foe sends out entei* Now we assume it's a Zoroark. Does Entei get more popular now that it can trick people into thinking it's actually a Zoroak in disguise when it's a real Entei? Maybe. But then some people will assume all Enteis are Enteis, due to this hypothetical rise in popularity. It's a Zoroark. Now we go back and forth.

Anyway, we assume all the stats are Zoroark's. So, a shedinja comes out, takes sandstorm damage and doesn't die. A castform comes out in rain and doesn't transform (unless Illusion copies abilities too, which is reason enough for me to eat my game card) then what? If I'm confusing myself right now, this will definitely be confusing in battles. ANY POKEMON could really be a Zoroark. Damn.

Or maybe its stats will be mediocre, and no one will ever use it aside from a few gimmicky possibilities. That could happen.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 14, 2010, 06:49:35 PM
Also, maybe it'll just transform into a member of the party, regardless of it being alive or not, otherwise it wouldn't have an ability with a fully dead party, and some HM slaves would kinda make it obvious it's Zoroark (not that a lot of this even matters, the second it uses an attack, unless it's disguised as a Pokémon with similar moves, it will be obvious it's Zoroark).

Quote from: Zero on May 16, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Eh, I don't think I'd find it annoying. If anything, it'd help me feel like the games are advancing.

Though to be honest, it sure as hell is taking them forever. We've had the same gameplay and the same everything for 15 years almost.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 16, 2010, 06:31:59 PM
Think about putting 500 or more moving sprites, status distribution, cities, key-characters, and the new moves they're coming up with. It's sure as hell a whole lot of work.

Same gameplay and same everything? Dude, this is Pokemon. Of course you'd expect the same formula. We have spin-offs, though.

Quote from: Zero on May 16, 2010, 07:00:25 PM
My bad, too vague.

The gameplay at its core is not what I have a problem with. I love the gameplay, always will, but we've had the SAME intercourse ing plot for far too long. It's way past getting old. Also, while moving entry sprites are nice, they've only just recently made them a basic part of the games. Sure they had them in the expansion games but still, non-moving characters during battle should be a thing of the past, and I'm glad Game Freak realizes this.

Of course its a lot of work. Developers constantly say how difficult it is to work with moving 2D sprites(Fighting game devs in particular). Regardless of how difficult it is, it needs to be done and if it proves to be too much work, then there is always the option of switching to 3D animation, not that Game Freak has much experience with 3D animation.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 16, 2010, 07:17:23 PM
3D animation in a DS? I don't think it'd handle 500 or more creatures moving, even if they're all blocky and stuff.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 16, 2010, 07:17:23 PM
3D animation in a DS? I don't think it'd handle 500 or more creatures moving, even if they're all blocky and stuff.

Quote from: Pumburn on May 16, 2010, 01:10:43 PM
The whole moving thing looks like it'd get annoying.
They're just rocking back and forth. If they were 3D it'd be more tolerable.

Quote from: Nayrman on May 28, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
I actually kind of like them.

Something tells me the Black version is "Dark" Type. :P

Quote from: Reel Big Fish on May 28, 2010, 01:56:43 PM
They're horrendous. No amount of fan art will save these.

Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 28, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
I'm sure you'll get used to it. As I recall, not everyone was too keen on that pig in your sig either, but we've quickly warmed up to him.

Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 28, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
I'm sure you'll get used to it. As I recall, not everyone was too keen on that pig in your sig either, but we've quickly warmed up to him.

Quote from: Reel Big Fish on May 28, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
What the intercourse  are they?

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 28, 2010, 02:40:01 PM
I'm pretty sure they're the Legendary Pokemon for the next game.

Quote from: Reel Big Fish on May 28, 2010, 02:44:34 PM
A cat and a clone of a cat.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on May 28, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
Personally, I don't think Mewtwo resembles a cat that much...

Quote from: Ra Ra Riot on May 28, 2010, 03:16:44 PM
...What the intercourse ing hell are those things? I'm officially disgusted by Gen V.

Quote from: Reel Big Fish on May 28, 2010, 02:51:01 PM
Mew is the cat. Mewtwo is a clone-of-sorts. It's understandable he'd look different. To say he doesn't have any cat qualities though is insane.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 28, 2010, 11:36:58 AM
It is cool that the black one is in White and the white one is in Black. Now I can still get White.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 28, 2010, 04:44:44 PM
Now we have this

Looks pretty cool

Quote from: Cornwad on May 28, 2010, 10:41:37 PM
The pose is what makes it look so horrific. It doesn't just not look like a Pokemon, it's badly drawn and designed. If the wings bend, then they wouldn't work as wings. If you're going to give something wings and you aren't going for the Charizard dragon look, at least make it look somewhat aerodynamic.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 01:16:00 AM
You guys decided Arceus was God, they never said it was.
Also, this is fiction based on fictional things. In fictional things, there are many gods, not just 1. We have our Zeus, now let's get our Hades and Poseidon, then all the titans and demigods and whatnot.

Quote from: Reel Big Fish on May 29, 2010, 01:19:18 AM
You're an idiot.

Quote from: Franz Ferdinand on May 29, 2010, 01:20:51 AM
I'm really thinking Jr is half right here on this one.

Quote from: Franz Ferdinand on May 29, 2010, 01:28:19 AM
Since when did being half-right about the new Pokemon have to do with someone's overall intelligence?

That goes for both of you.

Quote from: Franz Ferdinand on May 29, 2010, 02:23:58 AM
Words

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 01:16:00 AM
You guys decided Arceus was God, they never said it was.

Quote from: Zorua on May 29, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
Serebii has just confirmed that Reshiram and Zekrom are in fact dragon- typed.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 11:46:20 AM
You've got to be kidding me! Is that a requirement now? All of the legendaries must be part dragon? Now I hate them even more. Black is still better though, it at least looks like a dragon. With this new info, I think I can safely say the the white thing is my least favorite pokemon in existence.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 12:48:51 PM
Well in any case, I'm predicting that the black one will be Dragon/Dark and the white one will be Dragon/Fire

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
It might end up being some Yin Yang garbage. Maybe if you have two in a double battle they'll form the Pokemon Megazord.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Dialga, Palkia, Giratina.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 02:01:09 PM
Another thing, why are you guys so peeved about them being dragons? Let's look at the legendary dragons, shall we?

Latios, Latias, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina.
Not as many as you people are making it out to be.

Fly Legends: 7. Just thought I'd point that out.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 01:18:24 PM
"It has told in Mythology"
"It is said"
"According to the legends"
Legends, myths, there is always more than one legend and myth, especially when in a different country. In Greek mythology, there are many gods, like Zeus and whatnot. In Egypt there is Anubis, and stuff not involving Zeus and crap. And I'm sure there are many others that I am not mentioning.

Quote from: Zorua on May 29, 2010, 05:36:06 PM
Isn't every god based on beliefs? I mean the modern God we know today in most religions.. no one has ever seen him. People just believe it. Arceus is the same way.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 01:38:20 PM
It might end up being some Yin Yang garbage. Maybe if you have two in a double battle they'll form the Pokemon Megazord.

Quote from: JrDude ჱܓ on May 29, 2010, 09:49:02 PM
Just noticed, many pics/videos of walking around, but none have a Pokémon following them. Think they got rid of them? or do you think there's an option to put them away? (as in, follow you only if you want to)

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Yeah, I never understood that.

Quote from: X-3 on May 29, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
There are two possibilities: the Pokedex is full of poop, or Arceus is hardcore enough to create the universe with arms that don't exist.

Quote from: Cornwad on May 29, 2010, 08:09:37 PM
Yeah, I never understood that.

Quote from: Zorua on May 30, 2010, 07:44:18 AM
Simple explanation, It had arms, then after the universe was created, it got tired and put them away.

Guys, think. Do any of you completely understand the religion the people of GameFreak follow? No. Maybe in their religion they believe things like this, though not that pokemon created the universe. Maybe they believe that there was a god like this. You don't know, so shut up.

Quote from: SmashBro25 on May 31, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
Rumor time: apparently the host of Pokemon Sunday has claimed that Zekrom is an Electric Dragon

^- if this is true, it will be the most bada** pokemon of all time. ELECTRIC FTW.

Quote from: X-3 on May 31, 2010, 05:25:20 PM
Looking at it doesn't give a feeling of an electric type for me, but I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Quote from: JrDude φ on May 31, 2010, 07:51:23 PM
I'm sure it's new to you with Palkia having a perfect look for a water type.

Quote from: Zero on May 31, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Palkia has fins. lol

Quote from: Gwen Khan on May 31, 2010, 08:26:29 PM
why would a Pokemon that can warp space need fins?

Quote from: Gwen Khan on May 31, 2010, 08:26:29 PM
why would a Pokemon that can warp space need fins?

Quote from: Red on June 01, 2010, 04:00:32 PM
Black one looks pretty cool. Not as cool as some of the older legendaries, but better than last gen. I think it's a bit over complicated though.

White one looks god-awful. Here I was going to buy white version, but I don't think so anymore. Maybe after a while I'll warm up to it, but meh.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 01, 2010, 04:21:29 PM
Reshiram is in Black version, so you can still get White.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 01, 2010, 04:09:28 PM
White version has the black one, while Black has the white one.

Quote from: Red on June 01, 2010, 04:00:32 PM
Black one looks pretty cool. Not as cool as some of the older legendaries, but better than last gen. I think it's a bit over complicated though.

White one looks god-awful. Here I was going to buy white version, but I don't think so anymore. Maybe after a while I'll warm up to it, but meh.

Quote from: Zero on June 01, 2010, 04:48:56 PM
Good thing that Zekrom is the title legendary for the White version then, eh?

Quote from: The Offspring on June 02, 2010, 03:10:41 AM
You know what I would love? If there was a third legend for the Gray you know is going to come out, and that's it. For legends, anyway. Gods, it seems like every other Pokemon is a legend now.

Incidentally, to the person who said Legendary HM Slave, I have this reply: Manaphy.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
We know a 3rd game is coming out, but for all we know it's lightness and darkness thus creating twilight. Pokémon Twilight. Doubtful, but possible.

Quote from: So_So_Man on June 02, 2010, 04:34:58 PM
inb4 legendary vampires

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
We know a 3rd game is coming out, but for all we know it's lightness and darkness thus creating twilight. Pokémon Twilight. Doubtful, but possible.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 02, 2010, 04:41:39 PM
If that was the case, I'd think we'd have Pokemon Light and Pokemon Dark. But, as it happens, we have Pokemon WHITE and Pokemon BLACK; the fact that it's colors again (which I was very thankful for) makes me think the third, even if it isn't Gray, will be a color as well. Of course, I guess we thought that about Gold and Silver too...

Quote from: Cornwad on June 02, 2010, 05:05:06 PM
I believe that in paint and stuff, black is all of the colors and white is empty space. But in light, black is an absence of light and white is all colors put together. So they are both colors.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
If we're gonna get technical, let's get more technical. Black & White aren't technically colors.
It's race foo.
First Pokémon Black, then Pokémon White, next Pokémon Asian.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
If I'm not mistaken, with paint, no matter how many colors you try to add, it will never create black (unless you add black), just different shades of brown.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
If I'm not mistaken, with paint, no matter how many colors you try to add, it will never create black (unless you add black), just different shades of brown.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 05:03:30 PM
If we're gonna get technical, let's get more technical. Black & White aren't technically colors

Quote from: Cornwad on June 02, 2010, 08:41:21 PM
I have a feeling that once we see the third legendary we'll be able to take a good guess.

Quote from: Zero on June 02, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
No, lol you don't know how often I intercourse ing hear this and it irritates me.

White and Black are colors.

What in the hell constitutes as a color anyways? Does anyone pay attention in science class? White light is composed of the visible spectrum which has all the colors of the rainbow, or hell you can refer to them as "parts" because they're all different. When pure "white" light hits a surface the surface absorbs certain parts of it and reflects other parts of it, the parts that get reflected off are the colors we see(i.e. when blue and red are both reflected we see purple).

When a surface reflects ALL the parts of white light we see white because everything is being reflected. When a surface reflects NONE of the white light and absorbs it all, we see black. A color is just whatever we see or don't see when light is or isn't reflected off of something. I really don't get why people say they aren't colors. The most common explanation I get is that they're intercourse ing "shades". What?! Shades? No "mahogany" is a shade of intercourse ing brown. A shade is just a slight alteration of a typical color that still resembles that color.

And I'm not a painter, but I'm pretty sure you can get colors that are pretty close to black by mixing the primary colors. Not sure if you'd have to make purple, orange, and green first though. It's what makes sense according to science.

k done ranting lol

Quote from: X-3 on June 02, 2010, 07:19:34 PM
No, Pokemon Yellow has been done.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 09:37:48 PM
"The Third"
A lot of people didn't see Giratina coming, why? well there were like 40 legendaries after them, I would have predicted Arceus if I ever predicted the 3rd (I didn't try to though), and even if they did see it coming, I wouldn't get "Platinum" out of seeing Giratina.

Quote from: Rius on June 02, 2010, 09:48:28 PM
Not by seeing it, no; it's name, however, is partly derived from a Japanese word for platinum. It's the same for Dialga and Palkia.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
FUCK... so has red... Pokémon Mexican? No ring to it...

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 02, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
In light, black is the absence of colors, absence, as in, not there.
"pretty close to black" =/= black.
Also, shades would be a good explanation for it, adding white to red makes a lighter red, pink, which is a shade of red. What I don't get is when you add black to pink you get Magenta, not red... both shades of red but yeah.
On computer stuff, and often with paint, adding a certain amount of white to a color will make it lighter, add the exact same amount of black to it and it will change it back to it's original color. There is a good explanation of why they are shades. FUCK... so has red... Pokémon Mexican? No ring to it...

Quote from: Smashin on June 03, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
So... Will this be on 3DS then? It looks like the rumored release dates seem to correlate. B/W in fall 2010 and 3DS rumored for October.

Unless this has been already discussed, in which case forget that I spoke.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 03, 2010, 12:49:25 PM
While I very much wish it would take advantage of 3DS awesomeness, it has been previously confirmed for the DS, and I don't see why they would change that this far in development. I guess it's better for profits this way, though; a game this popular would sell a lot better if people could buy it for both their already-owned console and for their new backwards-compatible console instead of forcing people to pay probably around $200 for the new handheld as well as $40 for the game. Sure, more people might want to buy that new console if that were the case, but you know there are people who will be a bit wary of 3D (or just plain broke). I for one, however, am trusting Nintendo on the whole 3DS thing; if Gameboy was good, and Game Boy Color was good, and Game Boy Advance was good, and DS was good, I see no reason why 3DS wouldn't be good. Plus, I'm one of those people who looks at stuff like motion and 3D says, "Alright, let's see what we can do with this," instead of saying, "Oh great, another stupid gimmick fad; I'm not buying it unless it has 1:1 motion, glasses-free 3D, 10/10 gameplay, Legend of Bioshock Future 4: The Halo Chronicles."

Quote from: Zorua on June 03, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Point is, JrDude is an idiot

Quote from: Jason Rose on June 02, 2010, 08:39:05 PM
or else inb4gray

Quote from: Zorua on June 03, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
also inb4gray

Quote3DS

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 03, 2010, 04:58:07 PM
Old.
Gray has already been mentioned.
Pretty sure it's been confirmed to be on the Regular DS.

Quote from: Zorua on June 03, 2010, 06:06:17 PM
It has, and we said that, moron.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 03, 2010, 06:31:19 PM
I think we can agree that it will have 3DS specific features though. It's clearly meant for it.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 03, 2010, 06:31:19 PM
I think we can agree that it will have 3DS specific features though. It's clearly meant for it.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 04, 2010, 12:17:20 AM
My fun is done, Black & White are colors, I just wanted to see how angry some people would get.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 04, 2010, 01:38:09 AM
Liar.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 04, 2010, 03:05:06 AM
Not really. Couldn't care less though.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 05, 2010, 02:31:41 AM
(old topic but I feel like pointing it out)
Even if I did believe that Black & White weren't colors, it wouldn't change that Gray would be an option since Gray = Black + White which would make it not a color either

Quote from: Riddler on June 05, 2010, 04:08:01 AM
The host of Pokémon Sunday, Nakagawa Shoko, blogged today about the character she is voicing in the thirteenth movie. With this, she mentioned about her love for Electric types and stated that due to this, she wants to get Zekrom. This statement was quickly removed from her blog but people managed to catch it in time. If this holds true then it will mean that Zekrom is of a Dragon and Electric type, a new and unique type combination.  Remember though, this is NOT confirmed, albeit coming from a very likely source plus she could have removed it due to her being mistaken about Zekrom's type.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 05, 2010, 03:38:03 PM
Yeah, so... I definitely posted this topic on the eight page.  :|
I guess people forgot after that color debate.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 05, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
That doesn't count. We threw like every conceivable type around, and it was the wrong one anyway. I know you already said that it was the wrong one, but it still means that what you said had no relevance.

Quote from: Zero on June 11, 2010, 11:35:13 AM
I'm honestly not looking forward to Triple battles.

Quote from: Zero on June 11, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
The pink thing isn't a pig, its a Tapir. Drowzee is also a Tapir(sort of) so the two might be related. I could see it happening.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 11, 2010, 12:25:55 PM
I like the ape, zebra, and crocodile, though, and is it just me or is this gen looking more and more like Digimon?

Quote from: Gwen Khan on June 11, 2010, 12:19:17 PM
wait is that true?

Quote from: Zero on June 11, 2010, 12:38:48 PM
All of this info started circulating around the net yesterday. Not sure exactly where the info is coming from, but Reshiram's second type and the Professor was part of the batch of info, suggesting that the whole info could be true.

So, no, Triple battles are not confirmed. It's a strong possibility though.

Quote from: Zorua on June 11, 2010, 01:04:00 PM
>In-game Zoroark event
>Zorua is event exclusive
>Zoroark breeds to get Zorua?
>Zorua evolves into Zoroark?

something doesn't add up.

Quote# To get Zorua, you will need to send over the Celebi from the upcoming movie to Black & White. It is obtained at Level 10
# Zorua knows the attacks Leer, Scratch, Pursuit & Fake Tears
# Zoroark knows Fury Swipes, Faint Attack, Scary Face, Taunt and a new attack; Night Burst (ナイトバ-スト)

Quote from: bluaki on June 11, 2010, 01:08:13 PM
I don't remember the other mentions/pictures of battling Zoroark, but they could all be link battles? Maybe Zorua can evolve but cannot breed.

Quote from: Relichris on June 11, 2010, 09:31:53 AM
Finally there is a female professor.  :U

Quote from: Thirdkoopa on June 11, 2010, 01:13:13 PM
lol triple battles
I called it. I intercourse ing called it. Without trying too.

The gear looks horrible but the rest looks pretty nice I guess.
Makes you wonder how her rule 34 will be.

Quote from: Relichris on June 11, 2010, 01:16:40 PM
I can't wait to see her naked giving me a pokemon.   8)

Quote from: Riddler on June 11, 2010, 12:48:58 PM
Eh, with stuff like that, usually whoever starts the rumors finds out one or two true tidbits and makes up a bunch of others. Then, when the true ones are confirmed, everyone believes the rest.

Quote from: Zorua on June 11, 2010, 01:19:12 PM
That's creepy.

NSFCD'ers generally only think that way about men.

Quote from: Relichris on June 11, 2010, 01:24:48 PM
Well I'm a straight guy.  :U  I think about women naked all the time.

Quote from: Zorua on June 11, 2010, 01:25:25 PM
Clearly you don't fit in here.

Quote from: Relichris on June 11, 2010, 01:33:50 PM
No, I don't but women are amazing sex toys people to care for.

Quote from: Tito on June 11, 2010, 01:45:39 PM
I can't imagine a Pokemon game without badges. Then I'm reminded these are older characters. What if they've already collected their badges?

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 11, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
Let's see...

Oak: Studies Pokemon behavior with people
Elm: Studies Pokemon breeding/was a student of Oak
Birch: Studies Pokemon nature/knows Oak's research
Rowan: Studies Pokemon evolution/is Oak's senior

I wonder what the new professor will be studying, and if she's going to have some relation to Oak.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 11, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
if she's going to have some relation to Oak.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on June 11, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
I wonder what the new professor will be studying, and if she's going to have some relation to Oak.

Quote from: Nik on June 11, 2010, 07:23:11 PM
i care if oak's not in this game hes dumb. i thought birch was cool

Quote from: Zero on June 12, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
lol

~~

More rumors from Pokebeach.com:

Tauros is getting a minotaur-like evolution
A third legendary will be complimenting Reshiram and Zekrom, a cobra-like pokemon
There will be 157 new pokemon, making an even 650
Weather effects will become more prominent, with there even being effects catering to poison types
Yin and Yang/Good and Evil are the central plot-themes

Quote from: Rius on June 12, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
What weather effect could poison-types have, acid rain?
Anyway, I kind of hope all of that stuff is true and not rumors... except the cobra third legendary. With Ekans, Arbok, Dunsparce, Seviper, and now probably Smugleaf and its evos, we have enough snakes.

...Also, Metal Gear?!

Quote from: Cornwad on June 12, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
Totally called that ying/yang garbage. I'm also hoping for super Miltank.

Quote from: Zero on June 12, 2010, 09:59:43 AM
lol

~~

More rumors from Pokebeach.com:

Tauros is getting a minotaur-like evolution
A third legendary will be complimenting Reshiram and Zekrom, a cobra-like pokemon
There will be 157 new pokemon, making an even 650
Weather effects will become more prominent, with there even being effects catering to poison types
Yin and Yang/Good and Evil are the central plot-themes

Quote from: Cornwad on June 12, 2010, 04:47:59 PM
Somebody is mad that Tauros is getting an evo.

Changes depending on actions work in most games, so it wouldn't be much of a surprise in Pokemon. Your thing about the weathered items is a stupid argument, Tauros has needed an evo for a while, and 157 new is a pretty random number to just make up.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 12, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
They've added lots of stupid stuff, and you've admitted that they've had more absurd names before. Tauros may not have needed an evo, but like you said that's never stopped them before. What it comes down to is that you just don't like these rumors, not that they aren't believable.

Quote from: Zero on June 12, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
For the record, a lot of the rumors that have shown up on Pokebeach have turned out to be true.

They had the names of the starters a whole day before they were revealed, for example. There have been more, like the new legendaries' typing, but these rumors aren't without merit, and just like Serebii, they update their entries and clarify if the rumors were false or true.

That isn't to say you shouldn't take them with a grain of salt though.

These are just rumors, no need to jump the intercourse ing gun.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 12, 2010, 05:46:56 PM
Last I checked, a minotaur is still called a minotaur in Japan, and lots of times Japanese names are in English. The new steel type is called Gear in Japan. And Tauros is Kentauros is Japan, not Kentorusu or Kentarusu. Just replace the Ken with a Mino, which makes sense because it's Greek,  not Japanese or English.

Mino does exist in Japan, becuase Wormadam is Minomadam. You can easily make the leap from Minotarosu to Minotauros.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 12, 2010, 11:44:36 PM
Kianglo is a retard, that much has been known and is more obvious now. I don't believe any of the rumors until proven, but none of them seem bizarre and do seem possible.
I don't like the whole Cobra thing though.

Quote from: Zero on June 13, 2010, 10:35:42 AM
lol "you do not allow rumors here"? You're the original poster but that doesn't mean you control the content of the thread.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 13, 2010, 04:38:39 PM
That's what I'm hoping for. I think the first new evo last time was either Weavile or Roserade, so it could really be anything.

Quote from: Zorua on June 13, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
On what basis am I a retard? Just because I don't believe these rumors? You don't believe them either, so what does that make you?

Quote from: Zorua on June 13, 2010, 03:18:31 PM
Actually, I can. This thread was for confirmed information, not rumors. You wouldn't allow an argument about whether Garchomp is uber or not in a thread you made asking for help with your Pokémon Yellow game, would you? No, and the same principle applies here.

Although, you can talk about rumors here IF AND ONLY IF you respect the fact that they are possibly false. I want NO discussion of saying something's true if it's just a rumor. In case yous till don't get it, click these spoiler boxes to see examples.
[spoiler=DO NOT do this]
"I heard a rumor that Jynx may be getting an evolution in 5th gen"
~later~
"Well, we're getting a Jynx evolution named Megajynx. So that means we'll probably get a Miltank evo too."
"Wow, I want a Megajynx! I can't wait to get one!"
Unrelated person: "There's probably not gonna be a Jynx evo, and even if there was it wouldn't be named Megajynx"
"Hey no, My friend Zack said we're getting Megajynx, so we're getting one. Why hasn't the first post been updated with Megajynx yet?"[/spoiler]
Instead, I find no problem with this:
[spoiler=this is fine, I guess]
"Hey, Jynx was rumored to get an evolution."
"Eh, I don't want that to happen. It would look ugly."
"Yeah, but what would they name it?"
"Knowing GameFreak, if they made something like that it would have an absurd name like Jynkiss"
"Yeah, but If we do get a Jynx evo, I wouldn't like that name."

"You know what would be cool? A pure flying type."
"Yeah, but we're probably not getting one."
"I heard we might. It hasn't been confirmed, so don't get your hopes up. :/"[/spoiler]
Generic and corny to say the least, but you get the idea.

Whether you believe the rumor or not, it always has a chance of not happening. Therefore, I stick to the principle that I don't believe any rumors, even if I wish some of them were true.

Quote from: Zero on June 14, 2010, 02:44:04 AM
Uh, when did I ever not respect the fact that rumors are just rumors? lol seriously, come the intercourse  on.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 13, 2010, 11:50:43 PM
Also, I thought that gear thing was all one Pokémon, meaning that if in a double battle, there could basically be 4 gear things on one side.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 14, 2010, 03:31:43 AM
I think that's the way it works. It also means that you could have one Gear and a Plusle/Minun, which is pretty cool.

Quote from: serebii.netHidden away within CoroCoro's page about Celebi & Zorua in Black & White, there is a screenshot that gives some minor details about the transfer method. In the games, there is a machine called the Pokémon Transfer Machine (転送マシンでポケモン). The screenshot simply states that Celebi is being transferred through the Pokémon Transfer Machine. This appears to be the method of transferring the Pokémon from your 4th Generation games to your 5th Generation ones. This is to be done over the standard local wireless and appears to be one at a time. It is necessary to send Celebi & the shiny beasts obtained from the 13th movie over to Black & White to obtain Zorua & Zoroark. It is currently unknown if there are any limits to the Pokémon Transfer Machine similar to the original Pal Park restrictions in Diamond & Pearl
The official site also elaborates into the C Gear. It also shows on the menu and in the C-Gear that there are three methods of communication; Wireless, WiFi and IR (InfaRed) and you can use the C Gear with all three. These options are shown in the battle menu so it'll be able to tell when you're battling in any of those. These options are running while you're in actual gameplay as opposed to in a Union Room. To what extent, is not yet known.

Quote from: Zorua on June 14, 2010, 03:12:18 AM
Uh, when did I say you didn't? Come the intercourse  on. Everything I post isn't just about you. You're not the center of NSFCD. I was just making things clear for everyone.

Quote from: Zero on June 14, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
You quoted my post. lol fail

Quote from: Relichris on June 15, 2010, 08:59:29 AM
I don't understand why everyone is fighting.  :p

Quote from: Zorua on June 15, 2010, 08:30:54 AM
So if I quote a post that automatically means everything in the post is directed at that person?

I hate my family. My mother is abusive. But I quoted your post in the same post that I say this in, so apparently I'm talking about you. :|

Quote from: Jason Rose on June 15, 2010, 10:37:24 AM
No offense Kaos, but when there is discussion about an unreleased game, there is bound to be rumors. You just have to live with it and when it's confirmed true/fake, then you may include it/disclude it.

Quote from: Rius on June 15, 2010, 08:37:58 PM
Um, quite frankly it's not up to you to decide whether we want to view the rumors as real or not. If I take the position of true until proven otherwise, nothing you can say will change that or my posts that reflect such. Furthermore, since this is an "official" discussion thread for the 5th, that is inclusive of any major rumors that may come about. Unless you lock the thread, you really can't stop it. On a similar note, no one asked you to recognize the rumors as valid, so no one pressured you to include them on the first page.

Of course finally, we come to the point that no one here has neither stated nor implied (least of all Zero) that the rumors were real. Pretty much every comment on the rumors included the words "if" or "maybe". There was no observable foundation for your lambasting the rumors in this thread.

In other words, chill out; you can't control what other people post about things.

Quote from: Zorua on June 16, 2010, 05:25:37 AM
I never said people were already acting like these rumors were real. Get it? Good. I'm saying that I do not want this to happen. Okay? That's it. And like I said, I don't give a flying intercourse  what you think about the rumors, just keep all your "This hasn't been confirmed as real at all but I KNOW ITS REAL" poop out of the thread.

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This thread is not for flaunting false information saying it's true, in the same way as a thread about water bottle deposits is not for your favorite ice cream flavor. I said in the first post this thread is for CONFIRMED INFORMATION, and that is not going to change.

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I do not support any rumors. And do not ask me to. I never said that it was up to me to decide how you felt, so stop twisting my words around. I just said to always include the intercourse ing "if" or "maybe" or "I hope" poop when you talk about your rumors. I'm afraid the people of NSFCD can't comprehend that though.

Quote from: Rius on June 16, 2010, 04:23:31 PM
Back to the actual topic of the thread, seemingly CoroCoro says the website associated with Black and White allows you to upload your save file to the Internet and play; while it kind of defeats the purpose of portable gaming, I think it would be kind of awesome if there were areas you could only access online, or holiday-themed areas and such. Or it could be something similar to the PokeWalker, though less health conscious.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 12, 2010, 08:26:45 PM
Zekrom's ability is named "Teravoltage," not "Terra Voltage." "Tera" is a prefix that means one trillion. Does this mean it can generate a trillion volts of electricity with its tail generator?

Quote from: Zorua on June 13, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
It is Kentarosu. That's the actual translation of the japanese characters. ケンタロス is the actual spelling of the name. Let me break it down for you:
ケ - KE
ン - N
タ - TA
ロ - RO
ス - SU
They made it appear as "Kentauros" because they are pronounced the same. (An un-accented u at the end of a japanese word is barely pronounced) And it would make more sense to us Americans to know where the name comes from, because it sppearing as "Kentarosu" would just confuse us all, but seeing "Kentauros" makes us say "Oh hey, I get it." and see where the name is from.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 17, 2010, 09:16:52 PM
Charizard evolves, it's a triple type, steel, fire, dragon, it's called Farizard.

Quote from: bluaki on June 17, 2010, 07:30:12 PM
On a vaguely related note, why do people say Zoroa's (ゾロア) name is Zorua in English letters? I'm sure that ロ is always pronounced like "row" and that the letter u in that place is never pronounced like that.

Quote from: Zorua on June 18, 2010, 06:18:47 AM
Serebii said a while back, when the name was released, that the characters in the name translate to Zoroa. They said "However, it is confirmed that the name is actually Zorua" or something like that. I think they included a reason, but I don't remember what it was. I've been pronouncing it Zoh-ru-uh like you would normally pronounce Zorua. Maybe the japanese name is Zoroa but the english name is Zorua, because they always change ro to ru in the similar english names? No idea.

In fact, who's to say it's not going to be named Zolua? You never know.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 18, 2010, 06:40:50 AM
They might make that mistake in Japan, but I doubt we would get that seeing as how the "Zoro" in Zorua and Zoroark's names comes from the Spanish word for "fox," "zorro." There's no reason we would need to keep over some translation error like that if we know the origin, unlike Zelda's "zora-zola" problem.

Quote from: serebii.netWith the new downloads of the beasts; Entei, Raikou & Suicune in Japan to tie in with the upcoming movie, further details have been revealed about the in-game Zoroark event. As we stated last month, when you bring the beasts to Black & White through the Transfer Machine, you will get access to Zoroark in an as-of-yet undisclosed location in Isshu. This battle with Zoroark has you first face against an Illusion of one of the beasts. Previously, we didn't know what causes Zoroark to change form, but a pamphlet with the download has since confirmed it.
If you send over Raikou, Zoroark will appear as Entei.
If you send over Entei, Zoroark will appear as Suicune.
If you send over Suicune, Zoroark will appear as Raikou.
It is still not currently known how Zoroark's Illusion ability will work outside of this special event. The pamphlet also further confirmed the fact that Zorua & Zoroark can only be obtained through these special events. We'll bring more as it comes.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 23, 2010, 06:26:14 PM
It's far away from the other regions (not Japan). Since it isn't Japan, it must be the US.

Quote from: Rayquarian on June 23, 2010, 06:16:49 PM
What happens when you use Skill Swap on a pokémon with the illusion ability...

Regardless, illusion will make a great fake-out ability.

Quote from: Kianglo on June 24, 2010, 09:59:57 AM
What if you trace illusion? Or would it be a dead giveaway like this:

Opponent sent out Azelf!
Go, Gardevoir!
Gardevoir traced Azelf's Illusion!

...isn't that obvious?

Quote from: Grovyle on June 24, 2010, 10:06:18 AM
If so, it'd probably make pokémon with Trace popular leads.

But then again, that's only Gardevoir and Porygon2.

Quote from: Mewtwo on June 23, 2010, 10:59:38 AM
Serebii just explained how Zorua/Zoroark's Illusion ability works. Basically, when sent into battle, Zorua/Zoroark will take the name and appearance of whatever pokemon is on the second slot on your team, while still keeping its own type, stats, and moves.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 25, 2010, 02:36:09 AM
It's not THAT impressive, I mean almost instantly will it be discovered that it isn't (EX:) Jigglypuff. It seems more like a "oh that's cool" rather than a very useful ability. It can be useful, like but Zoroark 3rd+ in line of the party, then if it's a real person who knows your party, they won't know whether it's Zoroark or the 2nd Pokémon, but still won't be VERY useful. Does it copy fainted Pokémon?

Quote from: So_So_Man on June 25, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
  Unless your second poke is a weezing (best option in this case being them using a psychic type attack)

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 25, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
Is Serebii intercourse ed up for everyone? or is my computer just retarded?

Quote from: Mace on June 27, 2010, 04:45:28 PM
3 on 3 confirmed.

Quote from: SkyMyl on June 27, 2010, 04:57:03 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/dme3rq.gif)

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2010, 04:59:03 PM
I don't understand. Why is this a bad thing?

Quote from: Mace on June 27, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
well, it'll create a whacky metagame (as in, a new one), and when it's used...it just seems to me battles will be over the top.

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
Or, y'know, piss everyone off.

Quote from: Silverhawk79 on June 27, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
Hmm. I thought 2 on 2 was pretty interesting, so in my opinion 3v3 might make people rethink their strategies.
Or, y'know, piss everyone off.

Quote from: Grovyle on June 27, 2010, 07:56:23 PM
First, 1 vs 1, then 2 vs 2, and now 3 vs 3?

Quote from: Kianglo on June 28, 2010, 07:37:18 AM
If we ever get 6-on-6 battles I'm personally going to Japan to yell at GameFreak. :|

Quote from: Cornwad on June 28, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
I guess that explains the new move that grants levitation to other pokemon then. The one pokemon reminds me of a water bear, so it's ok in my book.

Quote from: Nayrman on June 28, 2010, 03:15:34 PM
the currently new bunch just shown look alright, although not too interesting. One looks like an evolution of Nosepasss or something (I don't know their japanese names so if it says that sorry).

3v3...I dunno, seems a bit complex and unnecessary to me, but as long as it doesn't show up much, whatever I guess.

So, mid September for Japan eh? So I expect a couple new ones at a slightly constant rate to keep interest, with a full reveal of all of 'em mid-August.

Quote from: Kianglo on June 28, 2010, 04:09:53 PM
As for the graphics, I'm not too impressed. The battles look alright, but in the overworld, the characters, while running, look like they're floating just above the ground. Did anyone else notice? It just looks a bit weird to me.

Quote from: Zero on June 29, 2010, 12:28:20 PM
The DS was released in late 2004. Just sayin'

Quote from: Zero on June 29, 2010, 12:28:20 PM
The DS was released in late 2004. Just sayin'

Quote from: Nayrman on June 29, 2010, 12:41:03 PM
Geez, just saying that makes time fly by.
I remember getting my grey DSPhat on launch day. Oy vey man, oy vey.

Quote from: Zero on June 29, 2010, 01:54:38 PM
I know. It's been nearly 6 years. It's so weird thinking about it, to be honest. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, and now when I look at my beat up DSphat its just...wow...it really never was all that impressive.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 29, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
Of course you thought it was the coolest thing ever Zero. When something new comes out it almost always looks like it's the best thing in the world.
"OMG INTERNET ON PHONE?!" - "olol everyone has internet on their phone"
"OMG TOUCH SCREEN?!" - "olol everything has touch screen now"
"OMG CHAT WITH PEOPLE?! I'M GONNA DOODLE STUPID STUFF AND TALK TO NO ONE" - "olol who cares?"
"2 screens? Horrible idea" - "OMG I FUCKING LOVE IT" - "olol who cares?"
I'd do more but I gotta leave.

Quote from: Detective Conan on June 29, 2010, 06:24:36 PM
That's pretty stupid. That's like looking back at SNES and saying it wasn't impressive.
For it's time, it was amazing. It still is a pretty good device.

Quote from: Cornwad on June 30, 2010, 12:39:38 AM
I agree with pretty much everything you said, but the Lite's buttons are garbage. I'm glad they fixed them when the DSi came out and I assume they'll keep the good buttons for the 3DS.

Quote from: Zero on June 30, 2010, 02:53:17 PM
Why would you want to devolve your pokemon?

Quote from: Detective Conan on June 30, 2010, 03:00:50 PM
Teach it certain moves in one evolution chain and reevolve it to another one, maybe.

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 30, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
If they did that, they might as well just make every Pokémon in the evolution family able to learn all the moves the prevo(s) can, which I am actually fine with, (EX:) I don't understand why only Lotad could learn rain dance, yet the bigger smarter versions of itself cannot (unless you give it a TM, but I meant by level up)

Quote from: JrDude φ on June 29, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
"OMG CHAT WITH PEOPLE?! I'M GONNA DOODLE STUPID STUFF AND TALK TO NO ONE" - "olol who cares?"

Quote from: Kianglo on June 29, 2010, 07:47:27 AM
I think they're more than capable of doing Colosseum-style 3D graphics on the DS. If not, Gen 6 (if we get one) better have it, and be on the 3DS. But seriously, the character sprites are as 2-D as they've been since the first generation. It's awful.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 01, 2010, 05:28:31 PM
Maybe they're using the idea I thought of (Breed 2 different Pokémon and get a whole new one) and did that with Koffing & Zubat family.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on July 02, 2010, 01:37:19 PM
Er, dude, I think that picture can get you banned of the site. Remove it.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 02, 2010, 06:10:12 PM
Or we can get Nidoran Genderless and it will evolve into Nidorine which will evolve into Nidolord ("lords" don't have a gender)

Quote from: Detective Conan on July 03, 2010, 01:28:57 PM
No thanks. Six Nidoran are enough.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 05, 2010, 05:43:56 PM
I was actually thinking the same thing not too long ago, I think I was playing HG or something.
But yeah, how come barely any Pokémon use old stones? The only ones I can remember using stones from past games is Lombre and Nuzleaf. There's probably more, but seriously. Also, why not use new stones on, I don't know, new Pokémon too? Not just like 4 old ones?

Quote from: bluaki on July 05, 2010, 06:32:17 PM
Regarding that flying pokemon, I don't think it looks much like Koffing at all. It's a ball of either fluff or spikes which has bat wings.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 05, 2010, 10:29:35 PM
Serebii has new pictures of the Larvitar and a new grass monkey thing.

Quote from: Zero on July 06, 2010, 03:56:18 PM
Grass Monkey? I don't see what you're talking about on Serebii's page.

Quote from: Gwen Khan on July 06, 2010, 04:07:44 PM
the green thing on Monday's update

Quote from: Cornwad on July 06, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
It's head reminds me of Aipom, but green.

Quote from: Zero on July 06, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
lol doesn't look like a monkey at all

Quote from: Mace on July 08, 2010, 03:09:40 PM
http://i30.tinypic.com/n762v.jpg

Quote from: bluaki on July 08, 2010, 03:30:51 PM
That looks likely fake to me. Especially considering that the words next to each Pokemon aren't Katakana symbols like all the species names are (and I'm pretty sure those are supposed to be names)

The water one looks especially terrible.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on July 08, 2010, 03:50:37 PM
Serebii doesn't have those pictures yet. But, then again, the administrator surely is overlooking this by accident.

I don't know... Something tells me these are the real pictures...

Quote from: Kianglo on July 09, 2010, 09:14:07 AM
The brown pokemon in the figurines picture is confirmed. We have no confirmation on the green figurine, but since he brown one is confirmed there's a 99.9999% chance the green is real too. Also, the final starters forms are fake, for the reasons blu, nayr, and rob mentioned exactly.
The names are not in katakana like all japanese pokemon names have been.
They were created a long time ago, far earlier than they would have been revealed, and the creator admits it.
They don't seem to match the confirmed second forms, so it appears as if there's no way for the second forms to evolve into these.

But the Grass-dragon looks really cool. I almost wish that one was real. .-.

Quote from: Riddler on July 09, 2010, 09:50:10 AM
So basically you just repeated everything we've said.

Quote from: Eros on July 09, 2010, 10:10:34 AM
Yes, but all at once. I said that.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 10, 2010, 01:21:26 PM
(http://pokebeach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/minezumi.jpg)

Quote from: bluaki on July 10, 2010, 02:40:37 PM
I don't know if any other pictures before have confirmed this, but when I read the text it translates to something like: "Wild mamepato and minezumi have appeared."
It's a wild double battle.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 10, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
That's nothing new though. In previous games, if you have a partner like Riley with you, you can find wild double battles. You just have to KO one before you capture one.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 10, 2010, 04:10:14 PM
KAOS (until you change your name you're Kaos.), the new battles use zooming and panning. It's probably zoomed in past the trainer.

Quote from: Eros on July 10, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
Shut the intercourse  up about my name and get the intercourse  out of my thread.

What if my real name is Eros and now you're insulting me for that?
It's not.. but I know someone named Eros.

Quote from: Eros on July 10, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
Also it's greek god week and I'm allowed to chose whatever I want. So I chose the god of love and beauty. Is that wrong? No. It fits the theme. YOUR theme, rob.

Quote from: Nayrman on July 10, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
the chipmunk looks like an angry Bidoof that slimmed down to take revenge on those that dissed him last gen.

Quote from: Eros on July 10, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
Also it's greek god week and I'm allowed to chose whatever I want. So I chose the god of love and beauty. Is that wrong? No. It fits the theme. YOUR theme, rob.

Quote from: Nayrman on July 10, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
the chipmunk looks like an angry Bidoof that slimmed down to take revenge on those that dissed him last gen.

Quote from: TheAuraWielder on July 10, 2010, 04:57:20 PM
Why call it a 'sex' god, then? Also, the week hasn't begun yet. It begins tomorrow.
And you like him.

...Er, the orange-eared Pokemon, right? That doesn't look like a Bidoof nor looks similar...

Quote from: Nayrman on July 10, 2010, 04:41:54 PM
the chipmunk looks like an angry Bidoof that slimmed down to take revenge on those that dissed him last gen.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 10, 2010, 06:28:21 PM
I just noticed that the green blob has a look that's similar to Castform when he takes a weather element. It seems like this game has some weather importance with there being a new thing for it, maybe Castform has an evo? I doubt it but it's just a thought.

Quote from: Thánatos on July 12, 2010, 12:28:39 AM
Magic Room...that'll cut Choice users down to size.  I can see it being used on leads.

Quote from: Eros on July 12, 2010, 01:33:48 PM
Is it a psychic attack? I'd assume it would be, like Trick Room.

So, fast psychics like... OH RIGHT, Azelf leads with Magic Room would become popular, and Azelf's use as a disruptive lead would skyrocket. Taunt + Magic Room + High speed = easy abuse.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 12, 2010, 01:43:03 PM
It's an ability.
It prevents items from having any effect.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 12, 2010, 03:13:55 PM
If you're talking about Magic Room, no, it is an attack.
"There is an attack known by Gochiruzeru called Magic Room which..."

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 12, 2010, 03:19:01 PM
Well, whatever. It still does what I said it does.

Quote from: Seth on July 12, 2010, 05:06:21 PM
That would be devastating against the player.

And it wouldn't work in many instances because most NPC trainers don't use items. And especially not often.

Quote from: Eros on July 12, 2010, 08:01:15 PM
You don't find items on NPC's pokemon, save the occasional Sitrus berry, etc.

But in the Battle Tower you do.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 12, 2010, 08:15:16 PM
Maybe with this new move we will see more NPC's with items.

Don't act as if it's a useless move. It's gonna be particularly effective competitively.

QuoteHe has the unique idea to set Pokémon free from people.

Quote from: Thánatos on July 13, 2010, 12:10:22 PM
It seems like we have another misguided villain trying to make things better in absurd ways.  But it does sound interesting.

Quote from: Thánatos on July 13, 2010, 12:10:22 PM
It seems like we have another misguided villain trying to make things better in absurd ways.  But it does sound interesting.

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on July 13, 2010, 07:22:44 PM
Pure coincidence, dude.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 13, 2010, 07:23:38 PM
I hardly believe that.

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on July 13, 2010, 07:50:04 PM
It's the Cubone thing all over again...

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 13, 2010, 07:54:39 PM
You can't call it pure coincidence until it's proven false.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 09:15:38 AM
Bullpoop. You can't call it true until it's proven true.

And so what if they share forewarn? Drowzee has Insomnia while Munna has Synchronize. Your logic that "Munna's coloration is similar to a shiny Drowzee's" is extremely flawed. You can't compare one pokemon's regular to one pokemon's shiny color and say they're related. Shiny Metapod is Red-orange. Paras is Red-orange. They are both Bug-types. Can Metapod evolve into Paras? No, it cannot. So there, we have a counterexample to your logic.

Other than Musharna's darker-colored lower body separated by a wavy line like Drowzee, the two look nothing alike. Well, their snouts look similar, but they're both tapirs. Listen to this.

Pikachu and Sandshrew are both known as the "Mouse pokemon." They are both yellow rodents. But they're not related.

Goldeen and Magikarp are both fish. They both are orange (Goldeen is mostly white with some orange). Actually, they are both gold when shiny. A lot of similarities, huh? But are they related? No, they are not.

It is pure coincidence, and is even less believable than the rumors I've been hearing.

tl;dr no.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 14, 2010, 09:45:45 AM
You have some terrible examples there. Pikachu and Sandshrew aren't the same type, nor do they have the same abilities or are based on the same animal. You'd have a good point with goldeen and magikarp, but I think we can all agree that it's easier to  have to unrelated 'fish' pokemon than two psychic dream related tapirs. Fish are common. You could say "I had fish for dinner" or "I say a fish outside today." People would give you funny looks if you pulled a "I saw another one of those psychic dream tapirs today." They might not be related, but if they aren't Gamefreak must be really running out of ideas.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 14, 2010, 12:51:51 AM
They're definitely related. They're practically the same pokemon, but Drowzee is more evil.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 09:15:38 AM
Bullpoop. You can't call it true until it's proven true.

And so what if they share forewarn? Drowzee has Insomnia while Munna has Synchronize. Your logic that "Munna's coloration is similar to a shiny Drowzee's" is extremely flawed. You can't compare one pokemon's regular to one pokemon's shiny color and say they're related. Shiny Metapod is Red-orange. Paras is Red-orange. They are both Bug-types. Can Metapod evolve into Paras? No, it cannot. So there, we have a counterexample to your logic.

Other than Musharna's darker-colored lower body separated by a wavy line like Drowzee, the two look nothing alike. Well, their snouts look similar, but they're both tapirs. Listen to this.

Pikachu and Sandshrew are both known as the "Mouse pokemon." They are both yellow rodents. But they're not related.

Goldeen and Magikarp are both fish. They both are orange (Goldeen is mostly white with some orange). Actually, they are both gold when shiny. A lot of similarities, huh? But are they related? No, they are not.

It is pure coincidence, and is even less believable than the rumors I've been hearing.

tl;dr no.

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on July 14, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
BTW, it hasn't been proved that they're connected, so it's not official. Everything for now is pure speculation. If we go by theories and stuff, then let's just say it looks like a female Drowsee without the evilness.

Quote from: X-3 on July 14, 2010, 03:08:09 PM
I really doubt Munna evolves into Drowsee, especially with that new evo revealed. I think it's just because I hate the idea of Munna somehow evolving into one of my least favorite Pokemon.

Quote from: X-3 on July 14, 2010, 03:34:13 PM
Animals have been repeated in the past. There's been crabs, butterflies, moths, pigs, snakes, spiders, frogs, dragons...Having a tapir be used again isn't too surprising. As for why both sets are dream eaters, I'll just chalk that up to mythology.

Quote from: Zero on July 14, 2010, 06:35:33 PM
I lol'd at the Goldeen and Magikarp comparison.

Anyway I'm surprised no one mentioned Wargle's new attack: Free Fall. It picks the opponent up with its talons, lifts them into the air, and drops them on the next turn.

So it seems like a combination of Fly and Seismic Toss.

I really hope they change Wargle's name though. For such a badass eagle pokemon, the japanese name just...ugh goes without saying.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 14, 2010, 03:36:29 PM
Animals have been, but this is something insanely specific. It's not an animal based Pokemon, it's a myth based Pokemon - Baku. Those don't get repeated, unless you count Moltres as a Phoenix, but that title goes to Ho-Oh. Moltres has a number of options to be based on.

Quote from: Barbaloot on July 14, 2010, 01:35:39 PM
Much like how Milotic is th Gyradose.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 14, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
Also you're a intercourse ing faggot.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 14, 2010, 02:34:43 PM
You're right, it hasn't been proven and it is speculation.
It's also speculation to call it coincidence until it's proven.

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 14, 2010, 03:21:31 PM
The biggest catch is why the hell would they have two sets of Pokemon based on tapirs and eating dreams? It just doesn't make sense unless they're connected.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 14, 2010, 07:06:34 PM
Maybe if we're lucky, we'll get another tree with multiple faces.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Valid. Look how close Feebas and Magikarp are.

They are both basic fish.
They both start with Splash, learn Tackle at level 15, and Flail at 30. And learn no other level-up moves.
They both evolve into Large pokemon that are long, serpent shapes with no appendages.
Their power and size sharply increase on evolution in both cases.
Milotic's colors (Red and tan) match Shiny Gyarados's colors. Gyarados's colors (Light-ish blue and tan) match Shiny Milotic's. As logical as your posts Rob, and that's not very.Don't insult people if you don't agree with them, thanks.Took you long enough. But thanks, I appreciate you acknowledging (sp?) that, honestly.Again, maybe Japanese mythology links tapirs to dream eating. Hence, Baku. So if they have a tapir it should be a dream-eater. Also Munna =/= Baku. Maybe in Japan, all tapirs are dream eaters, not just Baku. So, more then one tapir can be used, but all tapirs are based on Baku to the Japanese. (It is a non-native species to them)What was the first?
wait wut *thinks*

Quote from: POSEIDON on July 14, 2010, 08:50:24 PM
Ignoring everything else, I called you a intercourse ing faggot not because I disagree with you, but because you're a intercourse ing faggot.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 09:27:32 PM

But yeah, an eagle. Further backup that Isshu is based on America.

Quote from: Zero on July 14, 2010, 09:35:22 PM
Wargle being an eagle doesn't provide any substantial evidence that Isshu is based on America. Chiramii is a intercourse ing chinchilla. Chincillas are not native to North America. Neither are Zebras or Apes. This is intercourse ing pokemon and a pokemon being a certain species doesn't indicate what country Isshu is based off of.

With that being said, I'm fine with believing that Game Freak intended on the America-Isshu relation, but Wargle being an Eagle doesn't prove a darn thing.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 09:56:19 PM
Well sorry, but seeing as it's an eagle (the national bird) and its colors are red, white, and blue, the idea was forced into my head :(

Quote from: Zero on July 14, 2010, 10:24:21 PM
However, what I said earlier still stands. Pokemon in past regions have creatures that don't exist or aren't native to the country that the region is based off of(Japan, derp). You can't make the correlation.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 10:32:03 PM
I know that, but that's usually because they don't have a similar animal to work with.
Point is, they used a hawk (Staraptor), Owl (Noctowl), etc. Eagles, being the national bird always scream "america" to be. And the colors, yeah I was thinking Native American before. I just couldn't put my finger on it but dagh i knew it >_>

Its face looks rather patriotic though. That's probably only my opinion, doubt anyone else sees that, lol.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
What was the first?
wait wut *thinks*

Quote from: Zero on July 14, 2010, 10:24:21 PM
That isn't red you see, its a shade of brown.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 15, 2010, 01:43:13 AM
I'm actually 99% positive it's red.

Quote from: Eros on July 14, 2010, 08:43:12 PM
Again, maybe Japanese mythology links tapirs to dream eating.

Quote from: Zero on July 14, 2010, 10:48:48 PM
Staraptor doesn't have a bird of prey's beak and is essentially just a giant starling, but that's aside from the point.

Well I could say Charizard's face looks patriotic and it really wouldn't mean much, yes.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 15, 2010, 01:36:06 AM
I'm telling you guys, it's T.Hawk the pokemon. Its two turn move better be changed to Condor Dive in the english versions.
[spoiler](http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/286/2/a/103___Exeggutor_by_jacobmace.jpg)[/spoiler]

I could see us getting another one of these:
[spoiler](http://www.printsofjapan.com/Image2/Kuniyasu_Jinmenju_tree_w_heads4.jpg)[/spoiler]

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 15, 2010, 01:43:13 AM
I'm actually 99% positive it's red.

Quote from: Zero on July 15, 2010, 05:33:49 AM
I don't know why you say maybe when its just a few clicks and you can find out if this is the case. Japanese Mythology refers to "baku", which are spirit tapirs that eat dreams.

Its interesting considering the tapir is native to the East Indies and Central/South America.

Quote from: X-3 on July 15, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
I might just wait until the inevitable third game this time around.

Quote from: Eros on July 15, 2010, 08:38:36 PM

Brown, white and gray give the red-white-blue feeling, white still looking like actual, realistic feather colors. I think that was the approach in the designing of Wargle.

Quote from: Zero on July 15, 2010, 09:45:58 PM
So are Cardinals and Parrots/Macaws not realistic? They're bright red. lol seriously come on now.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 15, 2010, 10:51:39 PM
Also, if it were bright, it would scream USA, which is something I don't think they really wanna do. They don't want to make it 100% obvious.

Quote from: Eros on July 16, 2010, 07:08:51 AM
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t264/UltimateKAOS/wooguruhideous.png)

Second one looks hideous to me. Also, it's not real. I recolored it to get an idea of what it would look like if it really was red, white, and blue.

Quote from: Barbaloot on July 16, 2010, 10:44:33 AM
I must agree, the first looks SO much better.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 16, 2010, 11:55:52 AM
Aw, why'd you have to do that? Now the real Wargle will always look dull in comparison. I like the second, it's a patriotic parrot eagle of death.

Quote from: Hephaestus on July 16, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
Why? It would be the best selling game in history if "Now with America!" on the back of the box. They should also have an American flag behind Zekrom and Reshiram, and make all of the game music music remixes of patriotic American songs mixed with classic pokemon themes. Also, Wargle should have impossibly high base stats, making all of the lesser and unpatriotic pokemon completely useless.

Now that would be a game worth playing.

Quote from: Eros on July 19, 2010, 08:25:01 AM
The little green blob is more appealing to me than that gothic... good lord...

Quote from: Eros on July 19, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Remember kids, there's probably gonna be a GTS-like thing for 5th gen, so you can get everything anyway.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 19, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
I don't see why it matters right now, I mean, it's not like either are gonna be in your party, right?

Quote from: Zero on July 19, 2010, 07:26:28 PM
It wouldn't matter.

The GTS in D/P/P is filled with unreasonable trade offers anyway. It won't change in the long run. The only way I managed to complete my pokedex in Diamond was through trades in Serebii chat, and it took forever to legit it because of Nintendo being gay with releasing certain legends.

With this next Gen I'm not even sure I'm going to try to 100% the national pokedex. 650 or so is just too many when there probably will not be a transfer feature between 4th and 5th gen games. Even if there would be, it'll be just as tedious and time consuming as the Pal Park. 6 Pokemon at a time and only once a day? Does Game Freak TRY to piss people off?

Quote from: Eros on July 19, 2010, 09:47:57 PM
but an update a while ago said that migrations are one at a time, and no "k now go waste time catching your own pokemon" game was confirmed yet.

• Be like a normal trade sequence (similar to G/S)
• Show all the Pokemon in your box and let you quickly select the ones to transfer by touching each pokemon one at a time or whatever; also being able to interrupt your transferring if something special happens during transfer like an event unlocking or evolution (like My Pokemon Ranch)
• Require the Gen 4 game to have the Pokemon you want to import in 1st position of party, save right in front of Lance/Cynthia's Room, go through a very long transfer sequence, and require a two-hour minigame to recatch your single Pokemon (Like Hell's version of Pal Park)

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 19, 2010, 09:46:16 PM
Why the hell and EVER try to complete the national pokédex? I've never even done that in Blue/Silver.

Quote from: So_So_Man on July 21, 2010, 05:05:22 PM
(http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/b/b9/Oha_Suta_July_21.png/180px-Oha_Suta_July_21.png)

Is it just me, or does that thing on the right look like a Luvdisc evolution?

Quote from: Cornwad on July 21, 2010, 05:32:15 PM
That's hilarious. Watch, the stats don't improve at all.

Quote from: AuraChannelerChris on July 21, 2010, 06:39:11 PM
So we can agree that being a Luvdisc evolution? Time to guess a name.

Romdisc.
Luvmance.
Fishve.
I ran out of names.

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 23, 2010, 10:48:52 PM
I don't think the camera will move as much as it did in the video if you pick your moves fairly quickly like 95% of the world does. I think it will act like a screen saver except a little sooner. Also, the health bar seems to only move when it's time to pick an attack or something, while you aren't actually looking up there, possibly a signal for the retarded saying "PICK A MOVE NOW PLOX"

Quote from: bluaki on July 23, 2010, 11:31:37 PM
Gotta love Stadium announcer's impatience when you leave the game idle.

I like the changes for battle animating with sprites. The overworld, however, looks pretty terrible when sprites are on a detailed 3D background. Also notice that, in the second video, low health seems to stop the music for a bit, possibly change it, and still make the annoying tone (perhaps it's a little quieter than before?)

Is it weird that, of the announcements so far, a villainous team hasn't even been mentioned? N seems like a rival (like Blue and Silver, one who probably hates your guts) at the most and he's not part of a team.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 24, 2010, 05:41:22 PM
Well, it looks like that orange pikachu thing is one of this generations Mews.

Quote from: Kianglo on July 24, 2010, 05:47:35 PM
I disagree, it looks to me like something like the Pachirisu of this generation.

Quote from: It's ROBBIE! on July 24, 2010, 05:53:14 PM
Or you could, yanno, read the sites and see what the intercourse  it is.

It's a new legendary, number 000 on the Isshu Pokedex. You need a "Liberty Ticket" to get it, and it's being handed out at events.

Quote from: It's ROBBIE! on July 24, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
He wasn't talking about it's looks. He was talking about how it was announced.

Quote from: Kianglo on July 24, 2010, 07:28:33 PM
One is the fact that it stands on the ground.

Quote from: Mystic on July 24, 2010, 10:01:32 PM
Entei
Raikou
Suicune
Groudon
Dialga
Palkia

Hi.

Quote from: X-3 on July 24, 2010, 09:58:11 PM
Indeed. It has wings on a place where one just shouldn't have wings.

Serebii says it's Bikutini, Pokebeach says it's Victini. I kinda feel like

What a creepy little thing. I think it's that whole #000 thing.

Quote from: bluaki on July 25, 2010, 03:24:29 PM
He clearly means the cute, small, unobtainable legendaries in each generation. Up to gen 3, it was clear who fit this bill: Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi. All of these even have the psychic type, float, and seem pixie-ish. (Though it can be argued that Deoxys broke it then by being an additional unobtainable)

In Gen 4, with all the unobtainables, this pattern was pretty much destroyed; both Manaphy and Shaymin seem to fit this description, but neither are psychic, both of them have additional forms of some sort (Manaphy can create Phione; Shaymin has a Sky Form).

Oh, and guess what, Serebii's new banner even reflects this pattern:
(http://www.serebii.net/Banner.jpg)

Quote from: Cornwad on July 29, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
Now we have a new bambi
(http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/upimages/20100730_2.png)
a ragemunk evo
(http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/upimages/20100730_3.png)
and this new bird thing
(http://www.legendarypokemon.net/images/upimages/20100730.png)

Quote from: It's ROBBIE! on July 30, 2010, 12:05:52 AM
I'm pretty sure those are all fake.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 30, 2010, 12:18:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnvJtravwdc

Quote from: bluaki on July 30, 2010, 12:30:09 AM
In that video, I see two people in knight-ish outfits who are called "プラズマ団" or "Team Plasma" (literally purazuma-dan)
In addition, it seems to show a transfer method from Gen 4, in which 6 pokemon must be imported at a time and they're captured in a minigame that involves using touch to fling blue pokeballs at them.

Quote from: Zero on July 30, 2010, 12:37:08 AM
FFFFFFFF

Great, two aspects of the games I intercourse ing PRAYED wouldn't be implemented are a part of the games. Game Freak sucks ass. Importing 6 pokemon at a time is the most tedious and pointless thing ever.

Quote from: Kianglo on July 30, 2010, 07:56:45 AM
- Minezumi's (Ragemunk's) evo is ugly. It looks like a intercourse ing totem pole with feet.

Quote from: Mystic on July 30, 2010, 01:52:43 PM
So did Xatu.

Quote from: bluaki on July 30, 2010, 04:13:13 PM
Though the video clearly mentions D/P/Pt/HG/SS with the pokeshifter, maybe it's worth noting that all the pokemon shown with it are starters from gens 1 and 2. And that listing all the PC boxes like that seems inefficient/slow for wireless communications. But it's only wishful thinking to consider a possibility that it's transfer from gen 3 instead of 4.

Also, regarding Jirachi and other small Pokemon, the minigame uses the same icons as the PC, so all Pokemon are shown in the same size.

Quote from: Cornwad on July 30, 2010, 05:25:03 PM
That whole transfer thing is really annoying. Do we know if trading will be made easier yet? That's much more important for me.

Quote from: Kianglo on July 30, 2010, 06:00:30 PM
Less eye candy + quicker trading? I hope so

Quote from: bluaki on July 31, 2010, 02:17:49 PM
Regarding Isshu = America, look at one of the trainer classes; an American Football player:
(http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/footballplayer.jpg)

Quote from: JrDude φ on July 31, 2010, 04:49:28 PM
There are already like 3 rock gyms in 4 gens, I don't think we need more.

Quote from: Kianglo on July 31, 2010, 05:39:45 PM
Wait blu, what's this I hear about B&W and infrared?

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 03, 2010, 04:49:19 PM
None are awful, but none are awesome.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 03, 2010, 07:40:32 PM
The real question is, will the bug turn into a butterfly, a moth, or something else?

Quote from: Zero on August 05, 2010, 12:02:55 AM
...Chimecho....most popular 3rd gen pokemon...

Quote from: bluaki on August 05, 2010, 12:20:16 AM
What? It's news to me that people absolutely love a Pokemon which is useless in battle, is so extremely rare that nearly none even knew it existed until Gen 4, and which, for the people who actually did obtain it, wasted a few hours of their life walking around Mt. Pyre and running from countless wild battles in looking for it.

Quote from: Zero on August 05, 2010, 01:56:26 AM
lol first of all, Chimecho isn't useless in battle. It's not an attacking pokemon, but its a mean supporter. Chimecho was also a pokemon in the anime that James had and there were Duskull, Chimecho, Ralts, and Poochyena plushes everywhere back when the anime was running the R/S arc. People knew of him. Don't intercourse ing try to tell me no one knew that he existed until gen 4 and even if that was the case it wouldn't change the fact that its popular. Don't put words in my mouth either. Popular doesn't necessarily mean "absolutely loved".

It's on half of every NU team I've ever played, and it is playable outside of the tier too provided you know what you're doing. Saying its useless in-game is ludicrous as well.

Quote from: Zero on August 05, 2010, 01:56:26 AM
Popular doesn't necessarily mean "absolutely loved".

Quote from: Cornwad on August 05, 2010, 01:11:15 PM
The three rarest normal pokemon in gen 3 for me were Chimecho, Tropius, and Absol. Absol was really useful for fighting so a lot of people like it. Tropius is a flying leaf dinosaur with a banana beard so it's awesome. Chimecho...

Quote from: Kianglo on August 05, 2010, 05:43:17 AM

tl;dr if you didn't know about chimecho, you never would just by finding it in the wild. Same thing happened to me with Corphish. I found out about it in Pinball RS. Not in the game.

Quote from: Zero on August 05, 2010, 03:05:48 PM


lol please tell me you're joking. It having a 2% chance and only appearing in one area did not stop me from running into it. I ran into a chimecho my first playthrough the same way I ran into a Yanma in G/S. Call me a lucky sob but there being a 2% chance does not mean that you would not run into it at all. Not sure how high your comprehension level is, but you should be able to see why what you said just now is incredibly stupid. You're under the assumption that all players just run through the areas as fast as possible and avoid every piece of grass, and even then you could still run into the darn thing.

iirc Bagon was similar. He appeared on one area in the Dragon Cave and said area has an item. By your incredibly sound logic, you can't run into him without knowing he was there prior, yet when retrieving said item you can run into him. Oh snap.

@blu:

Agreed x1000

Quote from: SkyMyl on August 05, 2010, 04:18:05 PM
We're going to get three cat legendaries, all poison type.

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 05, 2010, 03:24:33 PM
And Zero, please tell me you're joking, so you get lucky and happen to run into a Chimecho, so that means that 90% of people that play do that too?
You're stating your experiences as if everyone experienced it. Chances are, you are not going to find a Chimecho, even if you walk through every blade of grass on your way in and on your way out, some are lucky, most are not. Hell, you could go on every grass with the white flute playing, then look in every direction on each blade of grass, and you STILL probably won't find a Chimecho, sure you CAN, but you probably won't. How do I know this? I've tried it on Pokémon with a HIGHER (not much higher) % of catch and couldn't find, and it had more grass than that area (I used to try to catch every Pokémon possible [I always ended up giving up]).

tl;dr. You are the idiot while K is not an idiot in that message.

Quote from: Kianglo on August 05, 2010, 04:35:06 PM
Zero. Tell me you're joking. There's very little grass on the summit of Mt. Pyre. If you decided "HEY LET ME CHECK THIS TINY BIT OF GRASS FOR RARE POKEMON" then sure, find a chimecho. Most people don't even notice the grass there, and if they do, after the Shuppet and Duskulls they think that's all it has to offer. Seriously, finding those two 99% of the time must get tiresome.

Quote from: JrDude φ
so you get lucky and happen to run into a Chimecho, so that means that 90% of people that play do that too?

• Touching the "Return" button, you get asked "Exit the box?". Pressing B is the button equivalent and highlights that button when pressed, but it instead asks the exact opposite: "Continue box operations?". Essentially, you need to remember to answer in an opposite way depending on how you pressed the button.
• Two different pop-up Party windows exist. Though the reason for this is clearly distinction between being able to show the menu or boxes, it just plain sounds like terrible design and seems confusing to the player. There are several better ways they could have handled the menu and probably keep the party onscreen at all times.
• The Y button can open the selected Pokemon's summary page only when the menu cannot be displayed. Though this is the case where that shortcut is most useful, the Y button has no other purpose whatsoever and should retain that function when the party is hidden.
• For button-based navigation, nothing but A and B have an effect. L and R do not switch boxes quickly. There is no "orange glove" to allow lifting a pokemon with a single button press instead of opening the menu (unless the party is shown at the right and menu cannot be displayed).
• Rectangle selection or any other form of lifting multiple Pokemon at once is completely removed. I very often find myself dragging many Pokemon one-by-one into the mini preview thing then later switching to that target box and reorganizing them the way they were before to get the same effect I used to.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 06, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
So does this mean that we won't be able to get the super chimecho or luvdisc until after we get the national dex? I thought this game was supposed to only have the new ones, unless luvdisc and chimecho are originally from America.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 06, 2010, 12:41:27 PM
So does this mean that we won't be able to get the super chimecho or luvdisc until after we get the national dex? I thought this game was supposed to only have the new ones, unless luvdisc and chimecho are originally from America.

Quote from: Mace on August 06, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
flying squirrel pokemon

Quote from: Cornwad on August 06, 2010, 08:20:57 PM
If at first you don't succeed, make it fly. The monkey thing's prevo is confusing looking, what is that supposed to be?

I wouldn't have guessed that Bambi is grass type, but at least he has a fire weakness now, which makes sense.

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 06, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
I'm gonna take a wild guess and guess that bambi evolves and the evo stays in the seasoned form it was in.

Quote from: bluaki on August 06, 2010, 04:42:09 PM
Perhaps it could treat the pre-evolutions as a baby form; you can catch both evolutions within the region, but you need to breed to get the old Pokemon. And breeding... isn't available until after the National Dex or something? w/e

Quote from: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA on August 07, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
But it's type doesn't change with the season...

Quote from: Cornwad on August 08, 2010, 06:26:08 PM
A bunch have people already mentioned the new squirrel.

The real news is the new stuff. The blurry new fish looks pretty good, but it's blurry. The bug thing is the sewing pokemon, which screams silk worm to me, which means its going to turn into a moth. Yay. The new Luvdisc evo looks pretty awesome to me, I might need to get into double battles. Weather effects and team battling seem to have a much greater emphasis this time around. The swan still looks pretty lame, but it could make a nice HM slave.

Quote from: Mace on August 09, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
tms don't disappear after use

Quote from: Nayrman on August 09, 2010, 03:31:59 PM
I think the bigger news is that according to serebii, TM's won't disappear anymore. Huzzah! We can re-use the bastards! The game is now much more enjoyable than it was before.

Quote from: Mace on August 09, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
tms don't disappear after use

Quote from: SkyMyl on August 09, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
That's almost enough to guarantee a purchase from me.

Almost.

Quote from: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA on August 09, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Manaphy's going to be mad when he finds out his special ability isn't exclusive anymore.

Maybe Manaphy will get Rain Dish/Water Absorb?

Quote from: Zero on August 10, 2010, 10:32:43 AM
Uh...all electric rodents in pokemon have circles on their cheeks. It's not anything new.

Also you're intercourse ing retarded if you think Pachirisu evolves into the flying squirrel

Quote from: It's ROBBIE! on August 10, 2010, 01:08:32 PM
And what the intercourse  are you talking about "All electric rodents." There are four. Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu, and Pachirisu. The little Chu's have red/orange cheeks. Raichu has yellow cheeks because his colors are flipped from Pikachu.

Quote from: bluaki on August 10, 2010, 04:07:15 PM
You forgot about two more: Plusle and Minun.

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 10, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
If you think Pachirisu will evolve into this flying squirrel, you are a retard. I can almost guarantee it won't. Put down as many things that can prove it will and you will still end up being wrong in the end. Just like with the Kanga/Cubone relation, though this one actually makes sense, neither will happen.
Only reason I'll give is the reason already given, though there are more that I am too lazy to put down (though another reason was implied). Electric + Rodent = Circle cheeks. Plusle & Minun also had them, though they had a +/- in the circles, they still had the circles. Though they possibly aren't rats like a lot of people think they are, they were obviously made to look similar to Pichu, so they still count.

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 08, 2010, 11:23:09 PM
Everyone noticed, just no one cared enough to post.
Or at least I hope everyone noticed, 'cause if you didn't you're a retard, I heard "flying squirrel pokemon" in here (before I saw it) and then immediately thought "Electric/Flying type" and then thought of Pachirisu without caring enough to comment on it.

Quote from: JrDude φ on August 10, 2010, 04:27:29 PM
How is that hypocritical? I noticed that there's an electric SQUIRREL and an electric FLYING SQUIRREL, though they are obviously similar in SQUIRREL, that is the only relation they will ever have.

And your color difference example is retarded, Poliwag families are tadpoles, and if they never made Politoed green, people may have assumed it wasn't a frog and thought it was just a retarded looking Poliwrath -Fighting.
Also, tadpoles are a different color than the frog they become, squirrels and flying squirrels are the same color, AND squirrels don't ever become flying squirrels. That last part doesn't really prove much, but if they were gonna make it flying, there's no logical point in a color change.

I wasn't gonna say anything about the physical differences for the reason you pointed out.

Cheeks doesn't help, or if it does, we can say Pichu evolves into this Flying Squirrel too, they both have circle cheeks too.

Quote from: It's ROBBIE! on August 10, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
RayQ, you can't be serious.

The best example I can think of for you is Chingling to Chimeco.

But there are sooooo many intercourse ing examples that disprove your statement.

Quote from: Cornwad on August 10, 2010, 08:09:43 PM
Pachirisu isn't a baby pokemon. Besides the face (which also looks like Pikachu) and the fact that they are squirrel related, the two don't look close. You'd expect similar coloring, ears, or tails if it was an evo. Plus, it would be weird to have Pachirisu catchable if not even Pikachu is seen until you get the national dex. It's probably like Munna, it looks like it should be related to an already existing pokemon, but it isn't.